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	<title>Comments on: Real Torture And Murder In Iraq: Where&#8217;s The Outrage?</title>
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		<title>By: Butchered Americans: Where’s the Outrage? - America at war blog</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-252238</link>
		<dc:creator>Butchered Americans: Where’s the Outrage? - America at war blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wonder if Congressman Mark Kennedy (R-Minnesota) read Blogs of War this morning?: Congressman Mark Kennedy (R-Minnesota) made this statement on the Floor of the House of Representatives today, following the torture and brutal killing of two American soldiers in Iraq. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wonder if Congressman Mark Kennedy (R-Minnesota) read Blogs of War this morning?: Congressman Mark Kennedy (R-Minnesota) made this statement on the Floor of the House of Representatives today, following the torture and brutal killing of two American soldiers in Iraq. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tortured Soldier Arrives Home&lt;/strong&gt;

The family of Thomas Tucker gave an interview a few days back to a local news crew which lasted about 30 minutes.  I&#8217;ve cut it down to about 11 minutes, it should be viewed by all.

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<p>The family of Thomas Tucker gave an interview a few days back to a local news crew which lasted about 30 minutes.  I&#8217;ve cut it down to about 11 minutes, it should be viewed by all.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cao</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-203312</link>
		<dc:creator>Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cao</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-203311</link>
		<dc:creator>Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billary responded by bombing an Aspirin factory while he had his hands on a hot overweight intern in the oval office and Arafat was waiting in the Rose garden.

I honestly don't know how these libs can look themselves in the mirror when they're spitting out these slogans with no thought processes behind them.  Do they think it makes them look intelligent, or what?

Bush lied, men died, no wmd, no blood for oil, I think I can recite them all.  But none of them are true, and as more documents are unclassified (because organizations like the CIA are too focused on CYA instead of national security interests or protecting citizens)-we're finding out exactly what the story WAS, and that our cause is JUST.

The media has had a total brain fart--under Clinton, they were perfectly okay with telling the Al Qaeda/Saddam/Bin Laden connection.  After Bush gets in office, they have a total memory lapse and the American public follows suit. 

There WAS WMD, and we are still finding it all over Iraq.  Heck, in 2004, we found almost 2 tons of uranium at al-Tuwaitha among many other things.  Saddam lied, men died, we should have blown him and his sons to smithereens long before. Brad Maaske, the guy who produced &lt;a href="http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=663" rel="nofollow"&gt;"WMD The Murderous Reign of Saddam Hussein", said the mass graves, the generations of families that disappeared--we should have done something long before.  35 years of a sick dictator is way too long.  Dictators and terrorists aren't going to sit and negotiate with you; we are basing too much of our policies and actions on the assumption that the enemy thinks and will behave as we do.

As we know from the condition that Menchaca and Tucker were found in, the mass graves, Saddam's taking videos of the atrocities, experiments on people and animals and chemical murders of the kurds- that is stupid thinking.

The citizens have been turning weapons found in; there's actually a program where we give them cash for bringing in weapons and bombs or pointing out where they are.  The Iraqis love that stuff.

But they also love being paid off when they can scam their way into making people believe that family members (even ones who are tied to terrorists)-get killed at the hands of American soldiers.

We shouldn't be doing that, IMO.

Great post, great roundup--enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billary responded by bombing an Aspirin factory while he had his hands on a hot overweight intern in the oval office and Arafat was waiting in the Rose garden.</p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t know how these libs can look themselves in the mirror when they&#8217;re spitting out these slogans with no thought processes behind them.  Do they think it makes them look intelligent, or what?</p>
<p>Bush lied, men died, no wmd, no blood for oil, I think I can recite them all.  But none of them are true, and as more documents are unclassified (because organizations like the CIA are too focused on CYA instead of national security interests or protecting citizens)-we&#8217;re finding out exactly what the story WAS, and that our cause is JUST.</p>
<p>The media has had a total brain fart&#8211;under Clinton, they were perfectly okay with telling the Al Qaeda/Saddam/Bin Laden connection.  After Bush gets in office, they have a total memory lapse and the American public follows suit. </p>
<p>There WAS WMD, and we are still finding it all over Iraq.  Heck, in 2004, we found almost 2 tons of uranium at al-Tuwaitha among many other things.  Saddam lied, men died, we should have blown him and his sons to smithereens long before. Brad Maaske, the guy who produced <a href="http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=663" rel="nofollow">&#8220;WMD The Murderous Reign of Saddam Hussein&#8221;, said the mass graves, the generations of families that disappeared&#8211;we should have done something long before.  35 years of a sick dictator is way too long.  Dictators and terrorists aren&#8217;t going to sit and negotiate with you; we are basing too much of our policies and actions on the assumption that the enemy thinks and will behave as we do.</p>
<p>As we know from the condition that Menchaca and Tucker were found in, the mass graves, Saddam&#8217;s taking videos of the atrocities, experiments on people and animals and chemical murders of the kurds- that is stupid thinking.</p>
<p>The citizens have been turning weapons found in; there&#8217;s actually a program where we give them cash for bringing in weapons and bombs or pointing out where they are.  The Iraqis love that stuff.</p>
<p>But they also love being paid off when they can scam their way into making people believe that family members (even ones who are tied to terrorists)-get killed at the hands of American soldiers.</p>
<p>We shouldn&#8217;t be doing that, IMO.</p>
<p>Great post, great roundup&#8211;enjoyed it.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-200632</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if Stop Bush! gets impatient waiting for his beer to chill?  He certainly has no perspective on reality, and the time it takes to accomplish anything worth accomplishing.

Must be his upbringing.

'Course his hero, Billy "Cut-&#38;-Run" Bub, only went for the conflicts that would take attention away from stained dresses and "lost" FBI files and such, and soon as the heat from his personal life was gone the soldiers were back home.  Including from Bosnia, right?  Where was the uproar over that one?  Oh, I forgot.  We had the European holy blessing for that one, and we're still paying for it.

S(o)B!:  Get a real life, not one you read and fantasize about on the Daily Kos.  Like that has anything to do with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if Stop Bush! gets impatient waiting for his beer to chill?  He certainly has no perspective on reality, and the time it takes to accomplish anything worth accomplishing.</p>
<p>Must be his upbringing.</p>
<p>&#8216;Course his hero, Billy &#8220;Cut-&amp;-Run&#8221; Bub, only went for the conflicts that would take attention away from stained dresses and &#8220;lost&#8221; FBI files and such, and soon as the heat from his personal life was gone the soldiers were back home.  Including from Bosnia, right?  Where was the uproar over that one?  Oh, I forgot.  We had the European holy blessing for that one, and we&#8217;re still paying for it.</p>
<p>S(o)B!:  Get a real life, not one you read and fantasize about on the Daily Kos.  Like that has anything to do with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: 4thelittleguy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-199724</link>
		<dc:creator>4thelittleguy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Reaction to the Torturing of Our Soldiers&lt;/strong&gt;

(H/T Expose the Left)
This morning on Fox News, E.D. Hill eloquently expressed her outrage at the terrorists who abducted, tortured, and killed our soldiers this week.  The video is an absolute must see; I have nothing to add.
Bill O&#8217;Reilly had a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Reaction to the Torturing of Our Soldiers</strong></p>
<p>(H/T Expose the Left)<br />
This morning on Fox News, E.D. Hill eloquently expressed her outrage at the terrorists who abducted, tortured, and killed our soldiers this week.  The video is an absolute must see; I have nothing to add.<br />
Bill O&#8217;Reilly had a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Bush!</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-199721</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Bush!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you're absolutely right.  It's all John Murtha's fault.  Afterall, Murtha lied about WMD, about being welcomed into Iraq with chocolates and flowers, he lied about mushroom clouds, he lied about who was going to pay for this war, and he just lied and lied and lied until... nobody believes him any more.  &lt;b&gt;If, that is, by John Murtha you mean George W. Bush.&lt;/b&gt;

Of course, had we begun withdrawing the troops back a couple of months ago, back when the Iraqi's had the first election, the second election, maybe even the third election, back when we captured Saddam... oh gosh, all these milestones gone by with nothing to show for it!  Except now, two dead,  mutilated, tortured American heroes.  And you're blaming liberals! What world do you live in?  How many more American heroes have to die in Iraq for you to wake up and realize this was a terrible, terrible mistake?  

Karl Rove was right (and I can't believe I'm saying this...) if we had wisely begun withdrawing when Murtha suggested it, we probably wouldn't have killed Zarqawi (but probably the Iraqis, who were the ones to tell us where he was, would have; they didn't like him any more than we did), but Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas Lowell Tucker may very well be alive, reunited with their suffering families, and safe.  If you need to blame someone, blame Condi Rice, blame Donald Rumsfeld, blame W, or best yet, &lt;b&gt;take a long hard look in the mirror&lt;/b&gt;.  

How dare you take a tragedy like this and twist it for poltical gain.  How dare you take the name of John Murtha, an American hero, in vain.  And you say &lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3350#comment-198990" rel="nofollow"&gt;I spin the truth!&lt;/a&gt;

The CONservatives got us into this war, and it's the CONservatives who are responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you&#8217;re absolutely right.  It&#8217;s all John Murtha&#8217;s fault.  Afterall, Murtha lied about WMD, about being welcomed into Iraq with chocolates and flowers, he lied about mushroom clouds, he lied about who was going to pay for this war, and he just lied and lied and lied until&#8230; nobody believes him any more.  <b>If, that is, by John Murtha you mean George W. Bush.</b></p>
<p>Of course, had we begun withdrawing the troops back a couple of months ago, back when the Iraqi&#8217;s had the first election, the second election, maybe even the third election, back when we captured Saddam&#8230; oh gosh, all these milestones gone by with nothing to show for it!  Except now, two dead,  mutilated, tortured American heroes.  And you&#8217;re blaming liberals! What world do you live in?  How many more American heroes have to die in Iraq for you to wake up and realize this was a terrible, terrible mistake?  </p>
<p>Karl Rove was right (and I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m saying this&#8230;) if we had wisely begun withdrawing when Murtha suggested it, we probably wouldn&#8217;t have killed Zarqawi (but probably the Iraqis, who were the ones to tell us where he was, would have; they didn&#8217;t like him any more than we did), but Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas Lowell Tucker may very well be alive, reunited with their suffering families, and safe.  If you need to blame someone, blame Condi Rice, blame Donald Rumsfeld, blame W, or best yet, <b>take a long hard look in the mirror</b>.  </p>
<p>How dare you take a tragedy like this and twist it for poltical gain.  How dare you take the name of John Murtha, an American hero, in vain.  And you say <a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3350#comment-198990" rel="nofollow">I spin the truth!</a></p>
<p>The CONservatives got us into this war, and it&#8217;s the CONservatives who are responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Levinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that most of the American soldiers who were killed in Iraq were
murdered. Fewer than a couple of hundred died from legitimate acts of
war (combat with uniformed Iraqi soldiers). The ones who died at the
hands of non-uniformed "insurgents" were murdered and our real problem
is that every single insurgent who is caught committing violence while
disguised as a civilian is not court-martialed and executed upon conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that most of the American soldiers who were killed in Iraq were<br />
murdered. Fewer than a couple of hundred died from legitimate acts of<br />
war (combat with uniformed Iraqi soldiers). The ones who died at the<br />
hands of non-uniformed &#8220;insurgents&#8221; were murdered and our real problem<br />
is that every single insurgent who is caught committing violence while<br />
disguised as a civilian is not court-martialed and executed upon conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogs of War</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-199679</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Beheaded Americans: Where&#8217;s the Outrage?&lt;/strong&gt;

The pattern, as I said yesterday, continues:
Interestingly silent on this and other atrocities carried out by the insurgents in Iraq are the â€œhuman rightsâ€ groups who seem to spend every day accusing the United States of torture, war crimes, and va...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Beheaded Americans: Where&#8217;s the Outrage?</strong></p>
<p>The pattern, as I said yesterday, continues:<br />
Interestingly silent on this and other atrocities carried out by the insurgents in Iraq are the â€œhuman rightsâ€ groups who seem to spend every day accusing the United States of torture, war crimes, and va&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PartisanTimes.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>PartisanTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Need For A United Front&lt;/strong&gt;

What are the qualities of a great leader? While a simple enough question, the answer has eluded academic theorists and laypeople alike â€” perhaps for lack of real world examples. There exists an infinite number of books and articles that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Need For A United Front</strong></p>
<p>What are the qualities of a great leader? While a simple enough question, the answer has eluded academic theorists and laypeople alike â€” perhaps for lack of real world examples. There exists an infinite number of books and articles that</p>
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		<title>By: Squiggler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;No moral equivalence&lt;/strong&gt;

Call me stupid, but I do not see the moral equivalence of cutting out someones heart, cutting off their private parts and stuffing them in the mouth, gouging out the eyes, and cutting heads off to dropping the Koran on the floor or even panties on a pe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>No moral equivalence</strong></p>
<p>Call me stupid, but I do not see the moral equivalence of cutting out someones heart, cutting off their private parts and stuffing them in the mouth, gouging out the eyes, and cutting heads off to dropping the Koran on the floor or even panties on a pe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hyscience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Real Torture And Murder In Iraq: Where's The National Outrage?&lt;/strong&gt;

Our troops deserve our full support, and we must recognize the intensity of evil that we face, the lengths they will go to harm America and undermine our values, and the need to make sure we win this War on Terror to keep our families safe at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Real Torture And Murder In Iraq: Where&#8217;s The National Outrage?</strong></p>
<p>Our troops deserve our full support, and we must recognize the intensity of evil that we face, the lengths they will go to harm America and undermine our values, and the need to make sure we win this War on Terror to keep our families safe at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/military/real-torture-in-iraq-wheres-the-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-199522</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - a Kennedy that sounds reasonable. Maybe it isn't just the name that makes the ones from Massachusetts insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow - a Kennedy that sounds reasonable. Maybe it isn&#8217;t just the name that makes the ones from Massachusetts insane.</p>
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