There has always been a quid pro quo with GI education benefits. You do more time, you get more education funds. Wow what a concept! I never fail to be amazed the way all these anti military/war/defense/nationalism types get all upset about GI bennies.

As far as paying for it, I believe a much better question is, why are we paying for abortions, for people who believe it’s their birthright to have the guvmint support them from cradle-to-grave, for criminals who steal across our sovereign borders to take jobs our citizens certainly will do and drive medical care into bankruptcy and overcrowd our prisons and schools and whine that they still own our land? And this is just the tip of the iceburg! Paying for a war is constitutional. Paying for most of the other 64% of our budget, I can’t find anywhere in the Constitution that says that’s ok but can find places where it says it isn’t.

But what do (I know? I’m just a simple country boy not smart enough to figure out I’m being fed a load of groupthink by knuckledraggers, unlike the Hussein worshippers who believe every word from that prophet’s mouth.

And John Boy has never said he doesn’t want post-service compensation for our troops, he would just like it commensurate with time served and action seen. Kinda like getting more days vacation at work the more years you’ve held your job. I can see where that would irritate libs and such, since it is birthright (again) that should guarantee the same compensation to all employees that the boss gets.

And a final note: what really gets my goat every time is understanding that those who make laws for the rest of us peons are generally not subject to those same laws. Take social security, for example (please). If it is so wonderful and the guvmint’s doing such a great job with it, why don’t those elected officials step up to the plate, give up their golden umbrellas, and put themselves under the same retirement they’ve forced me to under threat of incarceration? Or even look to fix it for me and others my age and younger? Hypocrites! Liars! Thieves! Politicians!

I can’t sugar coat this. I dont understand “optional war”. what kind of crap is that? Its either necessary or not. If its necessary then do it right. If its not then by all means try diplomacy.
War IS hell.
That should be all you need to know.

Which is why this ruling is so stupid. Here you have a bunch of well meaning judges, (I hope, although I have serious doubts sometimes about their true intentions) trying to place a peacetime civilian legal value on a war time situation.

Why do you think we have a separate code of law, and a separate court system just for the military? A code by the way that is clearly unconstitutional in a civilian sense. Writ of Habeus Corpus, like Due Process can be a two edged sword, and if the court is not going to excercise restraint in going into an area beyond delegated powers. Scalea is right when he says we are going to live to regret this.

End of rant.

How do I destroy an insurgents ability to wage war, just like we are finally doing now, one cell, one cache, one neighborhood at a time.

This is not rocket science. And no, I dont know the difference beween a civilian and an “insurgent”. So if he gets my way, he’s probably going to be toast, that’s what war is, that and bone tiring, hard ass work.

If your serious in your opposition to war and your reading all the crap and propaganda from these academicians and grey haired hippy “loyahs” from NYU your a fool. You should be reading W.T. Sherman’s Civil War, Alfred Mahan’s book on Seapower, Klauswitz, Patton, Schwartzkopf, Roger Knights bio of Admiral Nelson. In other words, guys that know what war is about, hate it as much as anyone, but realize there is a time for it.

Carlos: How is a war in Iraq worth dying for? Would you send your (hypothetical) son or daughter there? I don’t know how old you are, but would you go there yourself?

Would you be willing to pay more taxes so we can responsibly pay for this war instead of lending from China? Do you support Jim Webb’s GI Bill or do you think soldiers need to do more before they can be compensated? I’m asking these questions because I’d like to understand what your idea of sacrifice is.

TA Gray: How do you expect to destroy the insurgents’ ability to wage war? You talk a lot about how this war was grossly mishandled, so I hope you’re not suggesting that the military is the only way to achieve ‘victory’. That said, how can you tell the difference between an Iraqi civilian and an Iraqi insurgent?

Apparently thats a hard concerpt for liberals to grasp.

You are making the assumption that in any conflict there is a “winner-take-all” side, and in war that just ain’t so. Patton understood this, and mourned the death of every soldier he sent there.

You see, Liem, war really is hell, injuries and death really do occur no matter how “nice” or “right” either or both sides are, and casualties for the cause of perceived self-protection are going to happen. To some, our way of life is worth dying for.

Obviously, for others, nothing is worth that sacrifice.

I’d hate to be the one depending upon that type of wuss to defend his family from violence.

That’s a most basic difference between libs and conservatives: there are some things worth dying for.

You see war has a real efficient way of clearing out all the crap in one’s life, and bring you down to basics.

That’s why he derisively starts introducing race and ethnicity into the argument, because his argument won’t stand on its own.

We might as well take out those pesky border crossing Latinos while we’re at it. And then those threatening, spying Asians who are plotting to outpace America. We better keep an eye out for those Africans too, but we sure could use the non-slave labor. Then it will be a perfect world.

Any body whose ever had the God awful experience of being in a combat zone knows what the unofficial policy is going to be now. Should we take these guys prisoner, fill out the paperwork, read them their Miranda rights and then face a federal court investigation as to how careful we were, or do we take them out?

And then the donkeys will be crying “foul” even louder!

It also provides no incentive to detain enemy combatants and may actually encourage handing them over to other governments–governments with less compunctions of conscience about torture and punishment than the U.S.

followed by further litigation to resolve their particular cases,

followed by further litigation before the D. C. Circuit— where they could have started had they invoked the DTA
procedure.

Not Congress, whose attempt to “determine— through democratic means—how best” to balance the security of the American people with the detainees’ liberty
interests, see Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, 548 U. S. 557, 636 (2006) (BREYER, J., concurring), has been unceremoniously brushed aside.

Not the Great Writ, whose majesty is
hardly enhanced by its extension to a jurisdictionally quirky outpost, with no tangible benefit to anyone.

Not the rule of law, unless by that is meant the rule of lawyers,
who will now arguably have a greater role than military and intelligence officials in shaping policy for alien enemy combatants.

And certainly not the American people, who today lose a bit more control over the conduct of this Nation’s foreign policy to unelected, politically unaccountable judges.

- Chief Justice Roberts

Ill tell you whose won, the nut roots, the Marxists, and their ilk on the left have just won another milestone in the march to tyranny and the wussification of our military.

Hardly a day goes by that we don’t hear from our two liberal posters pissing and moaning about our guys getting killed. Well you guys ought to be in hog heaven about now, because all the court has done is insure possibly more of them will now die than necessary.

So, in a world where we have to be right 100% of the time and the terrorists only have to be right once, we should obviously discontinue the detainee program, close Gitmo, try these human beings terrorists and either convict them and throw away the key or acquit them and send the dirty illegal aliens back from where they came!

Well, call me a monkey’s retarded uncle, I’m just as surprised as you are, Carlos. You’d think they would respect America after we showed these former prisoners what nice liberators we are.

And who is surprised at the blatherings of Rocky and Liem? Some real, solid, thoughtful and insightful commentary there, guys. What does it have to do with reality, like, say, many of those we have released from Gitmo have been re-arrested on the battlefields trying to kill American soldiers?

And these two yoyos really believe Christianity is a threat to our way of life!

As a result, our enemies will learn to fear us. They should know better than to defend their land against the righteousness of America. They should know better than to fight against the freedom that we’re forcing down on them. And they should definitely know not to be terrorists even though we don’t have any evidence to prove that they’re not.

When will the world realize that America knows best?

The United States is the last, best hope for mankind. We are viewed around the world as one of the few countries that respect and abide by the RULE OF LAW. We cannot — and should not — alter or disregard the Constitution whenever it suits us. That would be the rule of man, commonly referred to here (and elsewhere) as a dictatorship and contrary to everything the United States stands for.

Justices Kennedy, Stevens, Souter, Ginsberg and Breyer did the right thing.

If we cannot accord these detainees a speedy trial, we should release them. It’s that simple. The problem is that we can’t prove that they’ve committed the crimes we’ve accused, and having tortured and imprisoned these human beings, we have put our own troops in jeopardy of the same treatment. (And before you all go off on these detainees not being equivalent to our troops, it makes no difference whether you wear a uniform or not when you’re the one being waterboarded, beaten or electrocuted.)

It is a stain upon this great nation’s history that we have held these prisoners without evidence and due process.

It takes great intellect, resolve and will to read and apply the Constitution, and the United States is a better country for this majority ruling.

God Bless the Supreme Court and the United States of America!