The discussion, Rocky, was about the noun “torture,” not the vt, and has to do with what constitutes the activity, not the sick twisting of old meanings to fit an agenda.

Sorry, it didn’t go right over my head.

Compromising national security, or conspiring in the cover up or destruction of classified information is neither politically noble nor very smart and healthy for anybodies sorry ass. There is a reason in this unfair and immoral world certain acts and information are classified.

You people want to piss and moan about who got caught or what side knew what, when and where thats fine.

Rocky, I only pointed out that some of your favorite people are just as implicated as those on whose watch it happened, by their spineless and complicit response to actions they had a moral as well as an official obligation to stop.

What should be alarming to us all is the inability of too many of our “leaders” to THINK CLEARLY and ACT FORCEFULLY with conviction to protect things which should be protected for everyone’s security an safety.

Point is your side knew as well as the other side, didnt they?
and also prooved themselves just as gutless didnt they?
And your proud of that?

I hope not, you are smarter then they are I hope.

Rocky, leaving the rest of your mindless drivel aside, let me point out that 1)my comment about the Prez defining torture was more of an invitation to the readers to look up the definition in the dictionary so they would be aware of how it is really defined. Obviously (but not surprisingly) that one passed right over your head.

And 2) the donkeys, libs and moonbats are the accomplished experts in using redefined words, to the detriment of society. They are, quite frankly, the progeny of Huxley’s “1984″ “newspeak”, and have honed their skills to an incredible degree. I mean, what else can be said about this when the President of the United States, in a sworn deposition, declares ‘It depends on what the definition of what “is” is.’

As far as the article goes, of course the writer had an agenda. That’s what’s taught in J 1 classes now. What’s upsetting to the agenda media is that it was dissing the donkeys, something that is sacrilegious to the MSM now.

First, the article is rather biased. Notice all the names it mentions? Now, remember that this briefing was conducted while the republicans were still in control of Congress. So, we’re not getting the full story here, and (face facts) had any Democrat broken their oath of secrecy, they would have been tried and convicted of treason, followed shortly by summary execution.

Regarding the WaPo piece, it just reeks of Karl Rove: take a shred of truth — that Pelosi was briefed — and torture it to the point of nonrecognition.

To suggest, however, that the Democrats take their cues from the ACLU and CAIR… say what? Who do the republicans take their cues from? Pastor Ted and toe-tapping Larry? Norm Podhoretz? We’ve gotten ourselves in far more trouble listening to these and other rightwingnut fools.

For the record, Democrats do not care more about protecting terrorists’ supposed rights than US citizens safety; but, as Thomas Jefferson said, “He who trades liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both.”

And to the comments: George, there are two liars in the WH now that three-fourths of the citizens do not trust. Of the entire slate of republican candidates, there is not one who does not have a trust issue to deal with. Your partisan slander means nothing.

TA, first, quoting michelle malkin is reaching new depths. She’s so bad, nobody — not even Fox Noise — respects her anymore. Setting MiMi’s ridiculous and shrill whining aside, who are you to say what the Oversight Committee was told? Remember, they have all sworn an oath of secrecy, and are expected to maintain it. Again, smelling Rove’s Machiavellian hand in this, it is one of those situations in which the Democrat would be damned if they spoke out, and now they’re damned for not speaking out. Remember when you all went ape-sh*t over Sen. Rockefeller’s hand-written letter to Darth Cheney regarding the domestic spying scandal?

Vicki, on what planet are you living? McCain should be president based on his stance against torture? Gosh, that makes most of the country ready to assume office. Your other point — if you have one, it’s that hard to tell from your collection of non sequiturs — is that Speaker Pelosi is not qualified for her position based on her position on waterboarding. Assuming, for a moment, that she was for waterboarding at the time, but later, with the passage of time, realized the error of this position, you’re saying that once a politician supports a position it should be cast in stone and never allowed to change, or they’re branded defective. Well, thinking people know otherwise. Smart people understand that positions can and do change. Not necessarily for the better, or do I need to remind you that just after 9/11 W said we’d catch bin Laden “dead or alive.” Fast-forward a couple of years, and it seems bin Laden is no longer even on Bush’s radar.

Finally, Carlos, I agree, the presnit needs to define torture for us. Of course, with the verbal knots that come out of W’s mouth, it will be difficult to reach any conclusion or understanding, and his definition is sure to change. Kinda like how he said anyone caught leaking information in his administration would be “dealt with” a là Scooter Libby; we just didn’t know that meant “pardoned.” In today’s republican party, no words have definitive meaning.

There’s more to this story than meets the eye. And far more than stated in this piece.

As far as “torture” goes, the president (and conservatives in general) would do well to expose the definition of “torture” to the public, who has been taken by the donkeys, libs and media. The Prez has allowed them to redefine the term, and that’s just plain wrong (and stupid on his and the party’s part).

If CIA agents are captured by the enemy, they will be punished as the enemy sees fit.

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