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By: California Conservative » Gov. Schwarzenegger to Veto State-Run Health Plan Bill

Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:26:50 +0000

[...] RELATED: SB840: Bringing the Failures of Canada to the Golden State, Part IV California Taxpayers On Hook For Over $200 Billion In Healthcare Benefits S.F. Unveils Universal Health Care Plan: Illegal Immigrants Apply Early [...]

By: California Conservative » San Francisco: Mecca For Homosexuals, Subversives, Indigents, And Illegal Immigrants

Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:34:04 +0000

[...] RELATED: S.F. Unveils Universal Health Care Plan: Illegal Immigrants Should Apply Early SF Mayor Gavin Newsom: Vows to Ignore The Law, Again [...]

By: AthlonGuy

AthlonGuy — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:19:22 +0000

Instead of taxing businesses, tax only city government employees a 2% income tax. Sure this probably makes no economic sense, but the joy of SF economics is you get to try fun Marxist stuff like that to see what happens.

By: Scott in CA

Scott in CA — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 01:36:54 +0000

I work for San Francisco “government”. This latest assault on business will pass the Board of Supervisors, our version of the city council. And, yes, businesses will close…lots of them. And, if the cutoff for contributing to this tax is 20 employees or more, I would not want to be number 20. This tax, on a firm with 20 employees, will cost the business almost $43,000 a year. For a company with 100 workers, the cost is nearly $400,000 a year. The Che-wannabes on the Board of Supervisors simply DO NOT CARE what this does to business because they see business as nothing but a cash cow. This cash cow has been funding nearly $200,000,000 in “homeless services” for our 10,000 people on General Assistance, which they may receive forever. In contrast, Orange County, with 2 million people, has less than 1000 on GA. All the counties around SF have a 90 day limit on GA, but not us. The city government refuses to let Walmart (gasp!), Target, or any other big box store locate in the city, so our poor get to travel to Oakland to buy stuff, or shop at the famous “local, independent businesses” that have crap and charge four times as much. But we are Progressive!! To the last, dying, business, we are Progressive. I often wonder how the city expects to fund the endless “social services” when most businesses leave. The middle class is pretty much gone. The rich always do well, the poor live like the wrong side of Guatemala, the the professional vagrants litter our streets and crap in our doorways. If you want to see what an American city looks like under Marxism, come and take a look.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 22:42:07 +0000

“I am sorry but I lived in countries with nationalized health care and would not support implementing it here.”

You bet. In the early 90’s, while in the Air Force, I spent 11 days as a “guest” of the Italian health care system after suffering an eye injury. The bottom line is that I wouldn’t recommend the joys of Italian health care to my worst enemy (well, maybe Osama or Saddam!) if my life depended on it. The quality of health care was little short of “Third World.”

Try eating hospital pasta morning, noon, and night for 11 days and you’ll quickly realize what I mean. “No Smoking” policies in-hospital? Forget about it! Don’t even get me started on the barracks-like accomodations…..

Ah, memories……

By: Nahanni

Nahanni — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 06:30:40 +0000

Roger,

I am sorry but I lived in countries with nationalized health care and would not support implementing it here.

If you want an idea of what it is like go out and get the WORST HMO policy you can find. That is better then nationalized health care.

There IS a reason why anyone and everyone who can buys supplimental health care insurance in places which have nationalized health care.

A better solution is to quit paying for health care for illegal aliens. That will take a very big chunk out of the amount that is spent on public health care. Don’t give me that “boo-hoo! people will die!” crap either. If you want to pay for 11 million Mexicans to ahve free health care be my guest-do NOT expect me to.

By: Roger Hoffmore

Roger Hoffmore — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:45:12 +0000

Consider that: 1) we already pay for the emergency care of the uninsured, 2) $ spent on preventative care saves in emergency care costs… resulting in LESS cost to the citizens. Universal health care SAVES money. Our current system costs more per capita than in any other Western democracy, yet our overall health is below the average… hmm…

Now SF doing by themselves may be foolhardy though… what we really need is for it to be nationwide… the result will be REDUCED health care costs for employers and employees…