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	<title>Comments on: San Francisco School Board Votes to Dump JROTC Program</title>
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		<title>By: California Conservative &#187; S.F. Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval: &#8220;The U.S. Should Not Have A Military&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Conservative &#187; S.F. Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval: &#8220;The U.S. Should Not Have A Military&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: California Conservative &#187; Who Is Against The JROTC? (Vote)</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-282319</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative &#187; Who Is Against The JROTC? (Vote)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who Is Against The JROTC? (Vote) &#187; The Extremist System &#187; San Francisco: Past and Present &#8212; A Reader&#8217;sRetrospective &#187; Why the U.S. Cannot Timetable Iraq &#187; San Francisco School Board Votes to Dump JROTC Program &#187; ACLU Seeks Again to Block Wiretaps &#187; Why Do Terrorists Prefer Democrats? &#187; Gen. Pace&#8217;s Alternative to the Iraq Study Group &#187; Unlike Democrats, Romania Will Not Abandon Iraq &#187; Dems Suggest Bush Lead the Way on Iraq &#187; Al-Qaida in Iraq Claims It&#8217;s Winning War &#187; Moving Forward, Part II &#187; Public Education At Work: California Student Ban Pledge of Allegiance &#187; Schwarzenegger Happy That Democrats Take Control of Congress &#187; Moving Forward, Part I &#187; Dear Nancy, It&#8217;s Your War Now: Watcha&#8217; Gonna Do? &#187; Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not &#8220;A War To Win&#8221; &#187; Schumer Shamelessly Preaches to Allen &#187; Rumsfeld Resigns: What Strategery? &#187; All Hail, Pelosi!  List all posts &#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nat McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-282082</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Did anybody notice that I was agreeing with the premise?&lt;/i&gt;
-Stop Bush!(Derangement Syndrome!)

I guess you glossed over my post where I acknowledged that you thought it was a mistake by the politicos in charge to cancel JROTC. Yada, yada, yada.

&lt;i&gt;What are you all doing about it?&lt;/i&gt;
-Stop Bush!(Derangement Syndrome!)

I emailed Pelosi's and Babs Boxer's office. I went to all the Right Wing leaning blogs I could and submitted detailed info about this subject. 

Tried using the Bat phone to Evil Conservative Industries(tm) to talk to our head honcho Mr. Rove but he was busy at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Did anybody notice that I was agreeing with the premise?</i><br />
-Stop Bush!(Derangement Syndrome!)</p>
<p>I guess you glossed over my post where I acknowledged that you thought it was a mistake by the politicos in charge to cancel JROTC. Yada, yada, yada.</p>
<p><i>What are you all doing about it?</i><br />
-Stop Bush!(Derangement Syndrome!)</p>
<p>I emailed Pelosi&#8217;s and Babs Boxer&#8217;s office. I went to all the Right Wing leaning blogs I could and submitted detailed info about this subject. </p>
<p>Tried using the Bat phone to Evil Conservative Industries(tm) to talk to our head honcho Mr. Rove but he was busy at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281983</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Diversity is a good thing.&lt;/i&gt;

We live in San Francisco, and it appears you do, too. If you were intellectually honest you'd admit that this City is overwhelmingly balkanized by race and by neighborhood.

Embracing "diversity" is a false premise promoted by the peddlers of political correctness. Like you.

On the other hand, why should diversity always mean race? Let's consider politics and religion.

When it comes to opinions and freedom of expression in San Francisco, there is close to zero diversity. Just look at the election results. That's because the high priests of "tolerance" are intolerant of any disagreement. Independent thinking is simply not fashionable.

Since the basis of this post is about schools, how many students do you think are taught fairly without political bias? The answer is self-evident. And if a student speaks out against a liberal teacher, what do you think happens? Diversity, but only if it conforms. That's what makes schools such easy pickings for liberals: young impressionable minds and their concern for popularity. 

And what about diversity of religion? Let's just look to the Middle East and see how well that's working.

Unity is a strength. e pluribus unum.

Finally, &lt;i&gt;it disgusts me that the Tenderloin is in the condition that it is. I could complain about it, or I can do something about it. I choose the latter.

What are you all doing about it? &lt;/i&gt;

Since casting any votes for the current "leadership", their "initiatives," or writing City Hall is a proven wasted effort, we are doing something better: exposing the "underbelly" of the City and it's far-left politics for the world to see.

Thanks for helping our cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Diversity is a good thing.</i></p>
<p>We live in San Francisco, and it appears you do, too. If you were intellectually honest you&#8217;d admit that this City is overwhelmingly balkanized by race and by neighborhood.</p>
<p>Embracing &#8220;diversity&#8221; is a false premise promoted by the peddlers of political correctness. Like you.</p>
<p>On the other hand, why should diversity always mean race? Let&#8217;s consider politics and religion.</p>
<p>When it comes to opinions and freedom of expression in San Francisco, there is close to zero diversity. Just look at the election results. That&#8217;s because the high priests of &#8220;tolerance&#8221; are intolerant of any disagreement. Independent thinking is simply not fashionable.</p>
<p>Since the basis of this post is about schools, how many students do you think are taught fairly without political bias? The answer is self-evident. And if a student speaks out against a liberal teacher, what do you think happens? Diversity, but only if it conforms. That&#8217;s what makes schools such easy pickings for liberals: young impressionable minds and their concern for popularity. </p>
<p>And what about diversity of religion? Let&#8217;s just look to the Middle East and see how well that&#8217;s working.</p>
<p>Unity is a strength. e pluribus unum.</p>
<p>Finally, <i>it disgusts me that the Tenderloin is in the condition that it is. I could complain about it, or I can do something about it. I choose the latter.</p>
<p>What are you all doing about it? </i></p>
<p>Since casting any votes for the current &#8220;leadership&#8221;, their &#8220;initiatives,&#8221; or writing City Hall is a proven wasted effort, we are doing something better: exposing the &#8220;underbelly&#8221; of the City and it&#8217;s far-left politics for the world to see.</p>
<p>Thanks for helping our cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Bush!</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281974</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Bush!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch, skewered by your rapier whit.  

Did anybody notice &lt;em&gt;that I was agreeing with the premise&lt;/em&gt;?  And dismiss your post (but please note, I didn't use the word "ranting")?   Hardly.  I don't agree that diversity is the cause behind this, however.  Diversity is a good thing.  

To reiterate, San Francisco has its problems, but it can deal with them.  The tourists do see the underbelly, and it disgusts me that the Tenderloin is in the condition that it is.  I could complain about it, or I can do something about it.  I choose the latter.

What are you all doing about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch, skewered by your rapier whit.  </p>
<p>Did anybody notice <em>that I was agreeing with the premise</em>?  And dismiss your post (but please note, I didn&#8217;t use the word &#8220;ranting&#8221;)?   Hardly.  I don&#8217;t agree that diversity is the cause behind this, however.  Diversity is a good thing.  </p>
<p>To reiterate, San Francisco has its problems, but it can deal with them.  The tourists do see the underbelly, and it disgusts me that the Tenderloin is in the condition that it is.  I could complain about it, or I can do something about it.  I choose the latter.</p>
<p>What are you all doing about it?</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281963</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't it interesting that Stopbush dismisses our post and everyone's comments as "venting" and "ranting," yet somehow elevates himself to speaking truth (to power)?

Just like marksanchez, he exemplifies liberal arrogance and smuggery. As The Gipper would say, &lt;i&gt;there he goes again&lt;/i&gt;...

Tourism and real estate are the measure for SFs success? 

No question about the City being beautiful, and tourists don't see the underbelly. (At least not since they swept away the trash that was encamped in Civic Center for years under Mayor Art Agnos)

Japan is expensive, too, but they don't have diversity. How does one explain that? Limited land. San Francisco is 7x7 mi. It's appealing to the young and single.

But when it's time to get serious and start a family, well, then they leave. What does that say?

And maybe it explains a few things about SB. Perhaps he can troll over to &lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=300" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"&gt;this old post&lt;/a&gt; and explain away the facts. But for the rest of our readers, you'll be able to connect the dots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting that Stopbush dismisses our post and everyone&#8217;s comments as &#8220;venting&#8221; and &#8220;ranting,&#8221; yet somehow elevates himself to speaking truth (to power)?</p>
<p>Just like marksanchez, he exemplifies liberal arrogance and smuggery. As The Gipper would say, <i>there he goes again</i>&#8230;</p>
<p>Tourism and real estate are the measure for SFs success? </p>
<p>No question about the City being beautiful, and tourists don&#8217;t see the underbelly. (At least not since they swept away the trash that was encamped in Civic Center for years under Mayor Art Agnos)</p>
<p>Japan is expensive, too, but they don&#8217;t have diversity. How does one explain that? Limited land. San Francisco is 7&#215;7 mi. It&#8217;s appealing to the young and single.</p>
<p>But when it&#8217;s time to get serious and start a family, well, then they leave. What does that say?</p>
<p>And maybe it explains a few things about SB. Perhaps he can troll over to <a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=300" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">this old post</a> and explain away the facts. But for the rest of our readers, you&#8217;ll be able to connect the dots.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281960</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"The city is 65% renters who happily vote YES on every bond, knowing that the landlords can’t pass on the costs to the tenants."&lt;/i&gt;

They are absolute bond junkies. Frankly so is all of California for that matter.

&lt;i&gt;"Tens of thousands of us have fled the crime and disorder for suburban cities where we can live in peace."&lt;/i&gt;

Count me as one of those who've fled to the peninsula Scott. My brother and father still live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The city is 65% renters who happily vote YES on every bond, knowing that the landlords can’t pass on the costs to the tenants.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>They are absolute bond junkies. Frankly so is all of California for that matter.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Tens of thousands of us have fled the crime and disorder for suburban cities where we can live in peace.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Count me as one of those who&#8217;ve fled to the peninsula Scott. My brother and father still live there.</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative &#187; San Francisco: Past and Present &#8212; A Reader&#8217;s Retrospective</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281954</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative &#187; San Francisco: Past and Present &#8212; A Reader&#8217;s Retrospective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stop Bush!</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281944</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Bush!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now that you've all vented (again), let's look at this from another perspective.  In fact, let's make it real easy.  Replace San Francisco (or "Frisco" as Walter says) with Kabul (and I know that's not too much a stretch for most of you), and replace JROTC with "terrorist training camps" (ahem...), and you'd all be screaming out of the other side of your mouths, now wouldn't you?  Just look at how they train their youth to join the military and kill kill kill!

Okay, now calm  down.  You're going to burst a blood vessel and give yourself a stroke.  Just hear me out.

The left of the left have made a big mistake here.  There, I've said it.  The school board was wrong to impose this program change on the students of SF.  If these students want to put on a uniform and parade around the school yard, we should let them.  And as you've pointed out, it's not a particularly effectivemethod for recruiting soldiers, probably because the class fulfills the PE requirement.  And the mostly asian students that take JROTC, in this case,lookfor something to replace PE.  On my drive home last night, I had occasion to drive past the school board meeting on Franklin, and saw the protests of mostly diminutive and asian students having a great time stopping traffic, exercising their right to protest (and being protected at taxpayer expense by the SFPD).

But blaming diversity for the problem?  (Yeah, I recall CalCON's post the other day blathering on about how diversity and division having the same root div but 
coming from completely different etymologies, i.e.; diversity comes from the Latin diversus meaning different vs the root of divivision divisio or, to divide, but I digress.)  So, the school that, according to CalCON, is "not one of the worst" but has "Students with english as a second-language. And teachers who fail the grade themselves, aren't good enough to make it in a private school and don't care enough about the job to inspire their students..."?  So, which is it:  Not too bad, or really awful?


    This is first-hand knowledge. Been there, done that.



Really?  When was the last time you stepped foot in Galileo HS?  (Extra credit for anyone who can tell me why it's named Galileo.)

I suppose all those teachers that couldn't make it in private schools would be quite interested in hearing that.  

Meanwhile, people like Scott flee to the suburbs, maligning the city.  With quite a few exagerations and incorrect information, I might add!  I suppose all the construction going on outside of Union Square and around PacBell park (or whatever they're calling it today) doesn't really count in Scott's world.  Umm, hello Scott... look outside your windows on your way in to work, and you might see the exploding growth in corridors throughout the city.  Newsom's Care not 
Cash program is proving spectacularly successful.  

Maybe if we could get the suburban cities to stop buying their homeless a one-way bus ticket to SF (hello, Pleasanton!), we could start to fix the problems (that Reagan created when he closed all the mental health facilities in the 80's... oh gosh, that must have been the last time that Scott saw SF as a really great place, and Michael has his answer about when things started to go downhill!  Thanks Gipper!).  But calling SF a hellhole?  I dunno what planet you're living on, but while the rest of the country suffers the real estate bubble bursting, SF is holding its own (a condo in my neighborhood sold last week for 12% over asking, in less than 3 weeks on the market...go figure), thank you very much.  If it is such a horrible place, why do so many people want to visit and live here?  Maybe Scott and Walter could stop the tourists on the street and ask them what the h-e-double-toothpicks they're doing here.

So, what can you all do about this horrible miscarriage of justice?  How about writing to the school board and register your displeasure.  Join all the asian JROTC kids and protest.  Blog on!  

Just stop blaming the greatest attribute that San Francisco has to offer --diversity-- for every ill that besets the city.  Just like every city, SF has its problems.  And just like every city, it will solve them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now that you&#8217;ve all vented (again), let&#8217;s look at this from another perspective.  In fact, let&#8217;s make it real easy.  Replace San Francisco (or &#8220;Frisco&#8221; as Walter says) with Kabul (and I know that&#8217;s not too much a stretch for most of you), and replace JROTC with &#8220;terrorist training camps&#8221; (ahem&#8230;), and you&#8217;d all be screaming out of the other side of your mouths, now wouldn&#8217;t you?  Just look at how they train their youth to join the military and kill kill kill!</p>
<p>Okay, now calm  down.  You&#8217;re going to burst a blood vessel and give yourself a stroke.  Just hear me out.</p>
<p>The left of the left have made a big mistake here.  There, I&#8217;ve said it.  The school board was wrong to impose this program change on the students of SF.  If these students want to put on a uniform and parade around the school yard, we should let them.  And as you&#8217;ve pointed out, it&#8217;s not a particularly effectivemethod for recruiting soldiers, probably because the class fulfills the PE requirement.  And the mostly asian students that take JROTC, in this case,lookfor something to replace PE.  On my drive home last night, I had occasion to drive past the school board meeting on Franklin, and saw the protests of mostly diminutive and asian students having a great time stopping traffic, exercising their right to protest (and being protected at taxpayer expense by the SFPD).</p>
<p>But blaming diversity for the problem?  (Yeah, I recall CalCON&#8217;s post the other day blathering on about how diversity and division having the same root div but<br />
coming from completely different etymologies, i.e.; diversity comes from the Latin diversus meaning different vs the root of divivision divisio or, to divide, but I digress.)  So, the school that, according to CalCON, is &#8220;not one of the worst&#8221; but has &#8220;Students with english as a second-language. And teachers who fail the grade themselves, aren&#8217;t good enough to make it in a private school and don&#8217;t care enough about the job to inspire their students&#8230;&#8221;?  So, which is it:  Not too bad, or really awful?</p>
<p>    This is first-hand knowledge. Been there, done that.</p>
<p>Really?  When was the last time you stepped foot in Galileo HS?  (Extra credit for anyone who can tell me why it&#8217;s named Galileo.)</p>
<p>I suppose all those teachers that couldn&#8217;t make it in private schools would be quite interested in hearing that.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, people like Scott flee to the suburbs, maligning the city.  With quite a few exagerations and incorrect information, I might add!  I suppose all the construction going on outside of Union Square and around PacBell park (or whatever they&#8217;re calling it today) doesn&#8217;t really count in Scott&#8217;s world.  Umm, hello Scott&#8230; look outside your windows on your way in to work, and you might see the exploding growth in corridors throughout the city.  Newsom&#8217;s Care not<br />
Cash program is proving spectacularly successful.  </p>
<p>Maybe if we could get the suburban cities to stop buying their homeless a one-way bus ticket to SF (hello, Pleasanton!), we could start to fix the problems (that Reagan created when he closed all the mental health facilities in the 80&#8217;s&#8230; oh gosh, that must have been the last time that Scott saw SF as a really great place, and Michael has his answer about when things started to go downhill!  Thanks Gipper!).  But calling SF a hellhole?  I dunno what planet you&#8217;re living on, but while the rest of the country suffers the real estate bubble bursting, SF is holding its own (a condo in my neighborhood sold last week for 12% over asking, in less than 3 weeks on the market&#8230;go figure), thank you very much.  If it is such a horrible place, why do so many people want to visit and live here?  Maybe Scott and Walter could stop the tourists on the street and ask them what the h-e-double-toothpicks they&#8217;re doing here.</p>
<p>So, what can you all do about this horrible miscarriage of justice?  How about writing to the school board and register your displeasure.  Join all the asian JROTC kids and protest.  Blog on!  </p>
<p>Just stop blaming the greatest attribute that San Francisco has to offer &#8211;diversity&#8211; for every ill that besets the city.  Just like every city, SF has its problems.  And just like every city, it will solve them.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/san-francisco-school-board-votes-to-dump-jrotc-program/comment-page-1/#comment-281942</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another fact: Oakland has a military charter school. The teachers are retired military people. The student body is over 90% non-white. 

Now why, pray tell, would all these parents want to send their kids to a military school in liberal Oakland? Could it be that they want discipline and order for their kids to excel? 

Stop Bush, in his rant above, refuses to see how SF has declined. Sure, there are pretty neighborhoods for people with money. But huge areas of the city are filthy, dangerous, crime-ridden, filled with drug dealers, vagrants, psychotics and those who prey on them. Years of coddling "the homeless" has produced this. 

Sure, "Care Not Cash" has housed over 2000 people in 2 years. That is good news. But is has nothing to deal with the thousands more who come here every year to prey on the residents, live on the streets, pass out in front of stores, and terrorize families and children. It's a disgrace. 

The city has over 20,000 vacant apartment. Landlords won't rent them because of the insane rent control that makes it illegal to live in your own building if you have a "protected" tenant. Rent increases average about 1% a year, regardless of the financial situation of the tenant or landlord. The city is 65% renters who happily vote YES on every bond, knowing that the landlords can't pass on the costs to the tenants. 

So, Stop Bush, don't lecture me about how great SF is. It used to be, but no longer. Tens of thousands of us have fled the crime and disorder for suburban cities where we can live in peace. 

And no, we don't want you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fact: Oakland has a military charter school. The teachers are retired military people. The student body is over 90% non-white. </p>
<p>Now why, pray tell, would all these parents want to send their kids to a military school in liberal Oakland? Could it be that they want discipline and order for their kids to excel? </p>
<p>Stop Bush, in his rant above, refuses to see how SF has declined. Sure, there are pretty neighborhoods for people with money. But huge areas of the city are filthy, dangerous, crime-ridden, filled with drug dealers, vagrants, psychotics and those who prey on them. Years of coddling &#8220;the homeless&#8221; has produced this. </p>
<p>Sure, &#8220;Care Not Cash&#8221; has housed over 2000 people in 2 years. That is good news. But is has nothing to deal with the thousands more who come here every year to prey on the residents, live on the streets, pass out in front of stores, and terrorize families and children. It&#8217;s a disgrace. </p>
<p>The city has over 20,000 vacant apartment. Landlords won&#8217;t rent them because of the insane rent control that makes it illegal to live in your own building if you have a &#8220;protected&#8221; tenant. Rent increases average about 1% a year, regardless of the financial situation of the tenant or landlord. The city is 65% renters who happily vote YES on every bond, knowing that the landlords can&#8217;t pass on the costs to the tenants. </p>
<p>So, Stop Bush, don&#8217;t lecture me about how great SF is. It used to be, but no longer. Tens of thousands of us have fled the crime and disorder for suburban cities where we can live in peace. </p>
<p>And no, we don&#8217;t want you there.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video from Channel 11NBC about terminating SF JROTC here w/ a smug comment from school board member Mark Sanchez: 

http://www.nbc11.com/news/10325308/detail.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video from Channel 11NBC about terminating SF JROTC here w/ a smug comment from school board member Mark Sanchez: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nbc11.com/news/10325308/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbc11.com/news/10325308/detail.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jaeger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Jaeger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once our troops return home, with honor, from Iraq, I would modestly propose they keep their skills sharp by liberating San Francisco.

It's time to free yet another place that chafes under the rule of tyrannical, corrupt, incompetent, and fanatic megalomaniacs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once our troops return home, with honor, from Iraq, I would modestly propose they keep their skills sharp by liberating San Francisco.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to free yet another place that chafes under the rule of tyrannical, corrupt, incompetent, and fanatic megalomaniacs.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, I took Junior RTC from 46 to 49 and as near as I can recall, it bore little resemblance to jihadism. If Kabul has high schools they could do worse that to have classes in miliary courtesy and discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I took Junior RTC from 46 to 49 and as near as I can recall, it bore little resemblance to jihadism. If Kabul has high schools they could do worse that to have classes in miliary courtesy and discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"Well, now that you’ve all vented (again), let’s look at this from another perspective."&lt;/i&gt;

How does your comparative hypothetical w/ JROTC offere "another perspective"? Oh yeah...just another opportunity for another San Francisco snarky individual to spit in the general direction of the US military. &lt;i&gt;" I had occasion to drive past the school board meeting on Franklin, and saw the protests of mostly diminutive and asian students having a great time stopping traffic, exercising their right to protest (and being protected at taxpayer expense by the SFPD)."&lt;/i&gt;  &lt;i&gt;"If these students want to put on a uniform and parade around the school yard, we should let them."&lt;/i&gt;Great stuff Stop Bush!.

I always love to hear the leftist meme that Reagan single handedly caused homlessness. Check out the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act of 1966 for a little more info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Well, now that you’ve all vented (again), let’s look at this from another perspective.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How does your comparative hypothetical w/ JROTC offere &#8220;another perspective&#8221;? Oh yeah&#8230;just another opportunity for another San Francisco snarky individual to spit in the general direction of the US military. <i>&#8221; I had occasion to drive past the school board meeting on Franklin, and saw the protests of mostly diminutive and asian students having a great time stopping traffic, exercising their right to protest (and being protected at taxpayer expense by the SFPD).&#8221;</i>  <i>&#8220;If these students want to put on a uniform and parade around the school yard, we should let them.&#8221;</i>Great stuff Stop Bush!.</p>
<p>I always love to hear the leftist meme that Reagan single handedly caused homlessness. Check out the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act of 1966 for a little more info.</p>
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		<title>By: ColoradoJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>ColoradoJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a little different take - I think we should pour more money and support for all of the most EXTREME leftist groups in San Fran. When they finally adopt all of their liberal agenda, and end up destroying their economy and their city, we will have yet another example of how well 'progressive' ideals work when they are actually implemented in the real world, rather than in their fantasy-world utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a little different take - I think we should pour more money and support for all of the most EXTREME leftist groups in San Fran. When they finally adopt all of their liberal agenda, and end up destroying their economy and their city, we will have yet another example of how well &#8216;progressive&#8217; ideals work when they are actually implemented in the real world, rather than in their fantasy-world utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ejercito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ejercito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I lived in San Francisco for 30 years before I left. When I came here, this was a wonderful, vibrant city that was affordable, safe, clean, and quirky enough to be fun without being nuts.

My, how times have changed. For the last 10-15 years, I have watched this city degenerate into a third world hellhole.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is amazing that San Francisco had become like this, considering it was &lt;i&gt; always &lt;/i&gt; a Democratic stronghold, and previous administrations run by Democrats were actually good in governing the city.

I wonder when and how things started to go downhill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I lived in San Francisco for 30 years before I left. When I came here, this was a wonderful, vibrant city that was affordable, safe, clean, and quirky enough to be fun without being nuts.</p>
<p>My, how times have changed. For the last 10-15 years, I have watched this city degenerate into a third world hellhole.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is amazing that San Francisco had become like this, considering it was <i> always </i> a Democratic stronghold, and previous administrations run by Democrats were actually good in governing the city.</p>
<p>I wonder when and how things started to go downhill.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut off ALL federal aid to Frisco schools, and officialy change the name to Frisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut off ALL federal aid to Frisco schools, and officialy change the name to Frisco.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Richard's Almanac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good Richard's Almanac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Anti-War Is Anti-Peace...&lt;/strong&gt;

Michelle Malkin has quoted a San Francisco Chronicle article announcing The City's decision to eliminate JROTC. Dozens of JROTC cadets at the board meeting burst into tears or covered their faces after the votes were cast. "We're really shocked,''...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Anti-War Is Anti-Peace&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Michelle Malkin has quoted a San Francisco Chronicle article announcing The City&#8217;s decision to eliminate JROTC. Dozens of JROTC cadets at the board meeting burst into tears or covered their faces after the votes were cast. &#8220;We&#8217;re really shocked,&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work here in San Francisco, although I no longer live here. I made my escape in 1999 and moved to the burbs. 

I lived in San Francisco for 30 years before I left. When I came here, this was a wonderful, vibrant city that was affordable, safe, clean, and quirky enough to be fun without being nuts. 

My, how times have changed. For the last 10-15 years, I have watched this city degenerate into a third world hellhole. 

Hundreds of people live on the street, sleeping in the doorways of businesses and homes. The parks, including Golden Gate Park, are filthy and unusable, due to being infested with psychotic vagrants and the petty criminal class of transients that drift in and out. We spend almost $200 million yearly on "the homeless". 

The schools are disastrous. Gang infested, violent, understaffed, undersupplied, and governed by a school board obsessed with political correctness. The election last week brought two more "women of color" who said the first thing they are going to do is factor in race for school assignements; something clearly forbidden by Prop 209 which banned this. SF's white, middle class families have left in droves as they watched the schools decline. The number of white children in public school here is 9%, even as whites are still close to half of the city's population. They fled for the burbs like I did, where they have created beautiful, well-run communities financed by the wealth brought out of San Francisco. 

The city "government" is dominated by agenda-driven leftists who regard business as evil, corrupt, and good for nothing except paying taxes for social programs for "the poor" and "immigrants". 

The military was long ago driven from this area, which historically had a long military tradition going back to the Spanish in 1775, and Mare Island shipyard, which dated from 1851. 

The city's only growing areas are in high-end retail around Union Square, and in the huge new developments of condos and apartments near the Giants Ball Park. Needless to say, the residents there do not share the lefty views of the rabble. 

The city is no longer the center of the Bay Area, although it's leaders insist it still is. Those of us who live around the Bay have no reason to come here anymore, as all the affluent suburbs have fine restaurants and cultural activities that used to be available only in the city. 

San Francisco is becoming, simply, irrelevant. 

If you want to see the results of ten years of hard left government on a city, come take a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work here in San Francisco, although I no longer live here. I made my escape in 1999 and moved to the burbs. </p>
<p>I lived in San Francisco for 30 years before I left. When I came here, this was a wonderful, vibrant city that was affordable, safe, clean, and quirky enough to be fun without being nuts. </p>
<p>My, how times have changed. For the last 10-15 years, I have watched this city degenerate into a third world hellhole. </p>
<p>Hundreds of people live on the street, sleeping in the doorways of businesses and homes. The parks, including Golden Gate Park, are filthy and unusable, due to being infested with psychotic vagrants and the petty criminal class of transients that drift in and out. We spend almost $200 million yearly on &#8220;the homeless&#8221;. </p>
<p>The schools are disastrous. Gang infested, violent, understaffed, undersupplied, and governed by a school board obsessed with political correctness. The election last week brought two more &#8220;women of color&#8221; who said the first thing they are going to do is factor in race for school assignements; something clearly forbidden by Prop 209 which banned this. SF&#8217;s white, middle class families have left in droves as they watched the schools decline. The number of white children in public school here is 9%, even as whites are still close to half of the city&#8217;s population. They fled for the burbs like I did, where they have created beautiful, well-run communities financed by the wealth brought out of San Francisco. </p>
<p>The city &#8220;government&#8221; is dominated by agenda-driven leftists who regard business as evil, corrupt, and good for nothing except paying taxes for social programs for &#8220;the poor&#8221; and &#8220;immigrants&#8221;. </p>
<p>The military was long ago driven from this area, which historically had a long military tradition going back to the Spanish in 1775, and Mare Island shipyard, which dated from 1851. </p>
<p>The city&#8217;s only growing areas are in high-end retail around Union Square, and in the huge new developments of condos and apartments near the Giants Ball Park. Needless to say, the residents there do not share the lefty views of the rabble. </p>
<p>The city is no longer the center of the Bay Area, although it&#8217;s leaders insist it still is. Those of us who live around the Bay have no reason to come here anymore, as all the affluent suburbs have fine restaurants and cultural activities that used to be available only in the city. </p>
<p>San Francisco is becoming, simply, irrelevant. </p>
<p>If you want to see the results of ten years of hard left government on a city, come take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: RICHARD DAUGHERTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICHARD DAUGHERTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT'S SAD THAT THE REAL VICTIMS OF THIS TRAGEDY ARE THE KIDS. APPARENTLY THE PROPONENTS OF THE REMOVAL OF THE JROTC PROGRAM WHO PREACH FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO OUR KIDS FORGOT TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY FELT ABOUT THE PROGRAM. 
  I WONDER WHO WILL THE SCHOOL BOARD BLAME FOR THIS LATEST BLUNDER. 
 THE PROPONENTS FOR THE PROGRAM SHOULD PROTEST VEHEMENTLY AND MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE PROGRAM SINCE IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WORKS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT&#8217;S SAD THAT THE REAL VICTIMS OF THIS TRAGEDY ARE THE KIDS. APPARENTLY THE PROPONENTS OF THE REMOVAL OF THE JROTC PROGRAM WHO PREACH FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO OUR KIDS FORGOT TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY FELT ABOUT THE PROGRAM.<br />
  I WONDER WHO WILL THE SCHOOL BOARD BLAME FOR THIS LATEST BLUNDER.<br />
 THE PROPONENTS FOR THE PROGRAM SHOULD PROTEST VEHEMENTLY AND MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE PROGRAM SINCE IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WORKS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM</p>
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