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		<title>By: California Conservative &#187; Rep. Jeffersonâ€™s Files Seized Under Eminent Domain</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/jefferson-update/comment-page-1/#comment-166225</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative &#187; Rep. Jeffersonâ€™s Files Seized Under Eminent Domain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rep. Jeffersonâ€™s Files Seized Under Eminent Domain &#187; Color-Blindness, Unless It&#8217;s Lavender &#187; ACLU Seeks To Silence Its Own BoardMembers: What Free Speech? &#187; Jefferson Update &#187; Quit Your Whining &#187; President Bush&#8217;s Tough Talk on Immigration Falls Flat &#187; Rep. William Jefferson and Situational Journalism &#187; What Constitutional Crisis? &#187; Fox: &#8220;Walls Won&#8217;t Fix Problem&#8221; &#187; Hayden Coasts Through Committee &#187; Responding to Viguerie &#187; Free Speech Attack Coming? &#187; Despite the Pols, Weâ€™re Winning &#187; Good News In Iraq &#187; The Missing Rove Indictment &#187; Thieves Steal Personal Data of 26.5M Vets &#187; Lieberman&#8217;s In Trouble &#187; 9th Circuit Court Promotes Religion In The Schools - The Muslim Religion &#187; The U.S. Must Not Abandon Iraq &#187; When Harry met Nancy  List all posts &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rep. Jeffersonâ€™s Files Seized Under Eminent Domain &raquo; Color-Blindness, Unless It&#8217;s Lavender &raquo; ACLU Seeks To Silence Its Own BoardMembers: What Free Speech? &raquo; Jefferson Update &raquo; Quit Your Whining &raquo; President Bush&#8217;s Tough Talk on Immigration Falls Flat &raquo; Rep. William Jefferson and Situational Journalism &raquo; What Constitutional Crisis? &raquo; Fox: &#8220;Walls Won&#8217;t Fix Problem&#8221; &raquo; Hayden Coasts Through Committee &raquo; Responding to Viguerie &raquo; Free Speech Attack Coming? &raquo; Despite the Pols, Weâ€™re Winning &raquo; Good News In Iraq &raquo; The Missing Rove Indictment &raquo; Thieves Steal Personal Data of 26.5M Vets &raquo; Lieberman&#8217;s In Trouble &raquo; 9th Circuit Court Promotes Religion In The Schools - The Muslim Religion &raquo; The U.S. Must Not Abandon Iraq &raquo; When Harry met Nancy  List all posts &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/jefferson-update/comment-page-1/#comment-166220</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 15:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear old drunk Hungarian uncle used to say, "If you wallow with the hogs, you'll smell like the hogs."

Washington is a sty of hogs.  Why is anyone surprised Jefferson, Delay, Hastart or anyone else smells like the hogs?

What I have a hard time seeing is why any self-respecting human who is morally upstanding and honest would want to go wallow with the hogs?  It seems like every bill even introduced is a scam of one sort or another.

Wonder if we'll ever get back to honest governance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear old drunk Hungarian uncle used to say, &#8220;If you wallow with the hogs, you&#8217;ll smell like the hogs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Washington is a sty of hogs.  Why is anyone surprised Jefferson, Delay, Hastart or anyone else smells like the hogs?</p>
<p>What I have a hard time seeing is why any self-respecting human who is morally upstanding and honest would want to go wallow with the hogs?  It seems like every bill even introduced is a scam of one sort or another.</p>
<p>Wonder if we&#8217;ll ever get back to honest governance?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/jefferson-update/comment-page-1/#comment-165985</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 04:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's no doubt that there are politicians of every stripe who violate the public trust, what troubles me is the inordinate amount of attention given here to the downfall of a member of the Democrats, who has rightly been asked to resign before more forceful measures are taken, and the scant (dare I say non-existent?) attention given to the numerous failures of members of the Republican parties. I always felt that, in such cases, it is more prudent to make sure your own closet is clean before you start crowing about how dirty someone else's is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that there are politicians of every stripe who violate the public trust, what troubles me is the inordinate amount of attention given here to the downfall of a member of the Democrats, who has rightly been asked to resign before more forceful measures are taken, and the scant (dare I say non-existent?) attention given to the numerous failures of members of the Republican parties. I always felt that, in such cases, it is more prudent to make sure your own closet is clean before you start crowing about how dirty someone else&#8217;s is.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Bush!</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/jefferson-update/comment-page-1/#comment-165813</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Bush!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 01:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt, Jefferson is going to prison.  Everyone (with one exception) wishes that Jefferson would, in the face of these allegations, resign and allow this issue to resolve itself in the courts.

However, your selective memory and admiration for the manner in which Duke Cunningham handled his misdeeds is not very well placed.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Faced with similar conditions, California Representative Randy â€˜Dukeâ€™ Cunningham resigned his seat and pled guilty. Heâ€™s now in prison. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It wasn't like he was accused on Tuesday, resigned on Wednesday and went to jail on Thursday, as you seem to be saying.  Duke sold his wildly over-priced house to defense contractor Mitchell Wade in November of 2003.  That, and other misdeeds, were revealed in June of 2005, and it took Cunningham until November of 2005 to admit his guilt.  So following the Cunningham standard, Jefferson should have at least 6 months to admit his guilt.  At least, that is, if he wants to be held in CalCon's high admiration.

Of course, it is entertaining that the blogsphere is up-in-arms over this issue, while the media has been playing it rather cool; and the Speaker of the House has been complaining to the President over the seperation of powers issue.  I never thought I'd see the day that the RepubliCons would come to the defense of a Democrat.  There are two possible explanations: 1) since corruption is part of the Washington DC culture, the RepuliCon leadership just thought is was another one of the gang in trouble; or 2) there really is something to this seperation of powers issue.  

Amazing how the RepubliCon leadership of the House is upset over their privacy being invaded, but couldn't care less about the invasion of privacy of every US citizen by the NSA, but I digress.  

Of course, selective memory is not limited to just this issue:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I used Rep. Patrick Kennedyâ€™s admitted drug addiction story and Rush Limbaughâ€™s bout with addiction as an example.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, Kennedy didn't go around on the radio saying things like "There's nothing good about drug use. We know it... Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs, and the laws are good... Because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, &lt;B&gt;they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.&lt;/B&gt;" (Rush Limbuagh's show, Oct. 5, 1995)  

So, I guess Rush should be &lt;em&gt;outraged&lt;em&gt; at the liberal, activist-judge who sentenced him to mere probation!  But again, I digress.  

Nevertheless, the comparison between Kennedy and Limbaugh is fallacious at best.  

As for the comparison between Delay and Jefferson, well, its hard to see.  Jefferson is accused of taking bribes -- cold hard cash -- while Delay's indictment on conspiracy, money laundering, et. al., and House ethics violations, is in a class by itself. 

I guess somebody needs to remind the RepubliCons that two wrongs don't make a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt, Jefferson is going to prison.  Everyone (with one exception) wishes that Jefferson would, in the face of these allegations, resign and allow this issue to resolve itself in the courts.</p>
<p>However, your selective memory and admiration for the manner in which Duke Cunningham handled his misdeeds is not very well placed.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Faced with similar conditions, California Representative Randy â€˜Dukeâ€™ Cunningham resigned his seat and pled guilty. Heâ€™s now in prison. </p></blockquote>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t like he was accused on Tuesday, resigned on Wednesday and went to jail on Thursday, as you seem to be saying.  Duke sold his wildly over-priced house to defense contractor Mitchell Wade in November of 2003.  That, and other misdeeds, were revealed in June of 2005, and it took Cunningham until November of 2005 to admit his guilt.  So following the Cunningham standard, Jefferson should have at least 6 months to admit his guilt.  At least, that is, if he wants to be held in CalCon&#8217;s high admiration.</p>
<p>Of course, it is entertaining that the blogsphere is up-in-arms over this issue, while the media has been playing it rather cool; and the Speaker of the House has been complaining to the President over the seperation of powers issue.  I never thought I&#8217;d see the day that the RepubliCons would come to the defense of a Democrat.  There are two possible explanations: 1) since corruption is part of the Washington DC culture, the RepuliCon leadership just thought is was another one of the gang in trouble; or 2) there really is something to this seperation of powers issue.  </p>
<p>Amazing how the RepubliCon leadership of the House is upset over their privacy being invaded, but couldn&#8217;t care less about the invasion of privacy of every US citizen by the NSA, but I digress.  </p>
<p>Of course, selective memory is not limited to just this issue:</p>
<blockquote><p>I used Rep. Patrick Kennedyâ€™s admitted drug addiction story and Rush Limbaughâ€™s bout with addiction as an example.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Kennedy didn&#8217;t go around on the radio saying things like &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing good about drug use. We know it&#8230; Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs, and the laws are good&#8230; Because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, <b>they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.</b>&#8221; (Rush Limbuagh&#8217;s show, Oct. 5, 1995)  </p>
<p>So, I guess Rush should be <em>outraged</em><em> at the liberal, activist-judge who sentenced him to mere probation!  But again, I digress.  </p>
<p>Nevertheless, the comparison between Kennedy and Limbaugh is fallacious at best.  </p>
<p>As for the comparison between Delay and Jefferson, well, its hard to see.  Jefferson is accused of taking bribes &#8212; cold hard cash &#8212; while Delay&#8217;s indictment on conspiracy, money laundering, et. al., and House ethics violations, is in a class by itself. </p>
<p>I guess somebody needs to remind the RepubliCons that two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right.</em></p>
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		<title>By: caltron</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/jefferson-update/comment-page-1/#comment-165806</link>
		<dc:creator>caltron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 23:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Hastert challenges the FBI over the Jefferson search and then the tables turn.  Now he is under investigation by the FBI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Hastert challenges the FBI over the Jefferson search and then the tables turn.  Now he is under investigation by the FBI.</p>
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		<title>By: KnightErrant</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/jefferson-update/comment-page-1/#comment-165785</link>
		<dc:creator>KnightErrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is at least one thing that you conservatives and us liberals agree upon, William Jefferson (D-LA) is a greedy little crook (allegedly) and the country will be much better off when he is serving in a federal pen and not on the House Ways and Means Committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is at least one thing that you conservatives and us liberals agree upon, William Jefferson (D-LA) is a greedy little crook (allegedly) and the country will be much better off when he is serving in a federal pen and not on the House Ways and Means Committee.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 20:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bipartisan Furor Over FBI Raid&lt;/strong&gt;

Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert demanded the return of documents seized by the FBI in a raid</description>
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<p>Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert demanded the return of documents seized by the FBI in a raid</p>
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		<title>By: Let Freedom Ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jefferson Update</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let Freedom Ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jefferson Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cross-posted at California Conservative   Categories: The Constitution, House of Representatives, Pelosi, Corruption &#124; [...]</description>
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