The pain is was clear- since I wrote this artical I have been angery with my community beyond words. I of all people know that people of faith are not bigots and they do not hate me- we may disagree on some issues, but it a big leap to say it is “hate”. I am sorry for what has happened.

I just took this artical and sent it to the LDS church via the web and yes on 8 people. if you have access to them please make sure they read it. I have offered to stand with them-shoulder to shoulder, if need be, and support them in public infront of the media. I am willing to “walk my talk.”

I do not know if the yes on 8 people or the LDS CHURCH will take me up on this offer but I felt compelled to do it.

Also today, a gay LA City worker used his city workstation to transmit E mails about upcoming protests and his personal views and remarks on future activism against the Yes on 8 people.

I took his E-mail and sent it to the proper investigators (LAPD internal affairs) for action. I made sure that they knew this was coming from a gay man- God forbid this clown think he is being picked on becuase he is also gay!

His sending of the e mails is a clear violation of city policy and places the city in a difficult postion. It also can cuase a “hostile work enviorment” if others disagree with him. I was assured quick action would be taken to stop this type of activity while he was at work.

Make no mistake about it- I am doing everything within my power to bring an end to this madness. I know of others in the gay community who are also working to end this. many feel that this has gone to far. Sadly however, it is like riding on a “run away train”- nobody is really sure how to stop it, but we are trying.

John

It has helped healed the resentment within me against the gay community for how they’ve acted since the passing of Prop 8. It is disheartening to say the least to see how they’ve vandalized places of worship, and hurled insults to people who disagree with them. They want to people to accept them, but spew venom on anyone who has a differing opinion.

Thanks John, I needed to know that not every gay person feels that way or condones these violent angry actions that I’ve seen on TV.

I’ve been just sickened by what I’m seeing as the “backlash” of Prop 8, the intimidation and fear tactics may be working– it makes people think twice before speaking their beliefs, for fear of bodily harm done to them.

So again, thank you for your speaking up, we needed to hear that to start the healing and not be intimidated anymore. Your message needs to be heard.

They are going it alone on this one, and they are losing more than an ballot measure.

I hate labels- yet, we have people in our society who need lables to exist (Al Sharpten, Lori Jean, and others). The only way to drive my point home and make sure my community understand that those out in ther streets are out of step is to identify myself totally.

Last time I wrote and artical, I had tons of hate mail which doubted that I was a “real person” and “even gay.” This time I sent a photo and made it point to ensure these yo-yo’s would not have the abilty to question me in those areas.

Sadly, what is now going on now extends beyond this whole prop 8 madness. In this case CA is NOT out of step with other states who had ballot measures coving GLBT’s, marriage, and addoption of kids. Florida, Arkansa, and I think-Arizona all had similar measures on this last ballot and all passed. Yet, in CALIFORNIA people have decided to thumb their nose at the voters, and the way we determine law; so the militants took to the streets as they have.

The voters have spoken- it is a done deal (until they drag it into court again). This is the second time the voters have spoken on this topic.

What is now at issue is this-and I hope people understand this, “do we (as civilazed people) allow a small militant group of people the ability to override “the will of the people” using ‘court legal tricks?’ When this happens-why should we as voters in this state even bother going to the polls anymore? If the protesters get their way, they will re-write the way we as people in this state, make policy, and develop policy. In a sense they are thumbing their noses at the voters saying “we dont care what you want or what you think.” In away the protesters want to “gut” the way we as a state do business and make law. The protesters want to re-make the system to suit thier own needs-when this happens we are no longer living in a “democracy” it is something else.

If this happens do I get to go to court and challenge the election of Oboma-I did not voter for him! Do I get to stop paying taxes becuase I voted against prop R-which raised sales tax. I hope people can understand how dangerous this gets when we allow things like this to happen.

I believe in the right of people to worship as they choose – even if it means they believe I am going to hell on a bobsled simply because I am gay man.

According to my faith, we are all on the same bobsled.

The problem is that, to the gay, black, feminist, and martian “communities,” anyone who does not agree with them is labeled homophobic, racist, anti-women, or anti-immigrant.

Similarly, gays, blacks, feminists, and martians who support mainstream society are labeled as “self-loathing.” If we surrender to this kind of Orwellian manipulation, it’s impossible to win any argument on its merits.

I’ve known John for nearly 20 years. He’s a good man, a good cop, and one of the more courageous guys I knew in the Marine Corps and LAPD. John’s mainstream despite his orientation - which is NONE of our business.

In this case, I suspect that the only reason John identifies himself as gay is so that other rational gays are less afraid to call these moronic protesters for what they are.

It’s clear that the overwhelming majority of Americans don’t care who, how, or why we love. The majority of Californians support civil unions that convey ALL of the rights and privileges of marriage. Their demonstrations, however, prove that the issue has more to do with their heterophobic and theophobic hatred than with the love they allegedly seek to profess to each other.