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	<title>Comments on: Enemies Are Reading&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM)</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-204307</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cancelling subscriptions is exactly the point.  You see, advertising costs are based upon readership, and if readership is low, advertising costs have to be reduced to induce companies to stay with the paper, and if readership falls too low, advertisers will find a) another print medium or b) another medium altogether to advertise in.

I quit reading our local rag years ago just for that reason, and encourage others to do the same.  It is just now (rumor has it) that the local rag is figuring out that pandering to the moonbats is costing them, and apparently are trying to figure out how to get the 30% of their readership back that they've lost due to extremist moonbat positions they take.

Unfortunately, I live in a solid blue town (we even had an avowed communist on the city council for a while, and no one in years has been a councillor that had even a centrist philosophy), so it's easier to be a socialist paper than just a NEWSPAPER THAT REPORTS THE NEWS.  (What a novel idea, that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cancelling subscriptions is exactly the point.  You see, advertising costs are based upon readership, and if readership is low, advertising costs have to be reduced to induce companies to stay with the paper, and if readership falls too low, advertisers will find a) another print medium or b) another medium altogether to advertise in.</p>
<p>I quit reading our local rag years ago just for that reason, and encourage others to do the same.  It is just now (rumor has it) that the local rag is figuring out that pandering to the moonbats is costing them, and apparently are trying to figure out how to get the 30% of their readership back that they&#8217;ve lost due to extremist moonbat positions they take.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I live in a solid blue town (we even had an avowed communist on the city council for a while, and no one in years has been a councillor that had even a centrist philosophy), so it&#8217;s easier to be a socialist paper than just a NEWSPAPER THAT REPORTS THE NEWS.  (What a novel idea, that.)</p>
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		<title>By: LivingTheDream</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-203902</link>
		<dc:creator>LivingTheDream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canceling subscriptions is missing the point.  When are we going to move toward the companies that pay for advertising?  Support them if they dont advertise and dont support them if they do.  

The NYT and the LAT are not going to worry too much about subscriptions, its the advertising dollars that make it or break it.  Make your wallet choices there and the Times' will change.

livingthedream
turn the key and smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canceling subscriptions is missing the point.  When are we going to move toward the companies that pay for advertising?  Support them if they dont advertise and dont support them if they do.  </p>
<p>The NYT and the LAT are not going to worry too much about subscriptions, its the advertising dollars that make it or break it.  Make your wallet choices there and the Times&#8217; will change.</p>
<p>livingthedream<br />
turn the key and smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Speed of Thought...</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-203883</link>
		<dc:creator>Speed of Thought...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;An Army of Photoshoppers...&lt;/strong&gt;

From California Conservative:
Many more to see here and here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>An Army of Photoshoppers&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>From California Conservative:<br />
Many more to see here and here.</p>
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		<title>By: AthlonGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-203807</link>
		<dc:creator>AthlonGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tone of that NYT article is discusting. The NYT guy defends themselves with, "We remain convinced that the administration's extraordinary access to this vast repository of international financial data, however carefully targeted use of it may be, is a matter of public interest." 

That's it? This military intelligence program is a matter of public interest, therefore its okay to report? And this use of "the administration" is peculiar.

It quotes a bunch of people saying how this plan was very successful in tracking down terrorist ties after 9/11. They even report on all the feds who asked them not to publish this. Then the article jumps into the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tone of that NYT article is discusting. The NYT guy defends themselves with, &#8220;We remain convinced that the administration&#8217;s extraordinary access to this vast repository of international financial data, however carefully targeted use of it may be, is a matter of public interest.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it? This military intelligence program is a matter of public interest, therefore its okay to report? And this use of &#8220;the administration&#8221; is peculiar.</p>
<p>It quotes a bunch of people saying how this plan was very successful in tracking down terrorist ties after 9/11. They even report on all the feds who asked them not to publish this. Then the article jumps into the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Bush!</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202956</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Bush!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Simon, Simon... don't you know?  Freedom only extends to republiCONs.  And polite repartee?  Not &lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3350#comment-198816" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Simon, Simon&#8230; don&#8217;t you know?  Freedom only extends to republiCONs.  And polite repartee?  Not <a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3350#comment-198816" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202894</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly gee, Simon. What happened to our cordial exchanges and witty repartee? The playful reference to St. Guinness was -- &lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2864#comment-135553" rel="nofollow"&gt;as before&lt;/a&gt; -- merely a nod to your Irish good standing. No disrespect intended. 

In regards to "freedom of the press," we support it. Just like "freedom of religion."&lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?s=piss+christ&#38;submit=Go%21" rel="nofollow"&gt;*&lt;/a&gt; And we've also recognized the &lt;i&gt;NY Times'&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2213" rel="nofollow"&gt;negative bias&lt;/a&gt; and double-standard when it comes to that.

But we're not talking about freedom of the press to offend people and their religious beliefs. The subject issue is about whether its reasonable and responsible to jeapordize national security and put lives at risk.

Can we drink to that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly gee, Simon. What happened to our cordial exchanges and witty repartee? The playful reference to St. Guinness was &#8212; <a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2864#comment-135553" rel="nofollow">as before</a> &#8212; merely a nod to your Irish good standing. No disrespect intended. </p>
<p>In regards to &#8220;freedom of the press,&#8221; we support it. Just like &#8220;freedom of religion.&#8221;<a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?s=piss+christ&amp;submit=Go%21" rel="nofollow">*</a> And we&#8217;ve also recognized the <i>NY Times&#8217;</i> <a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2213" rel="nofollow">negative bias</a> and double-standard when it comes to that.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re not talking about freedom of the press to offend people and their religious beliefs. The subject issue is about whether its reasonable and responsible to jeapordize national security and put lives at risk.</p>
<p>Can we drink to that?</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202756</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;with all due respect to St. Guinness, &lt;/em&gt;
Do you think referances to alcohol makes your arguement any way stronger. I have been nothing but polite but I find the insinuation that I am drunk highly insulting.

And if you think freedom of the press should be limited well I don't know how you could support &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2549"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>with all due respect to St. Guinness, </em><br />
Do you think referances to alcohol makes your arguement any way stronger. I have been nothing but polite but I find the insinuation that I am drunk highly insulting.</p>
<p>And if you think freedom of the press should be limited well I don&#8217;t know how you could support <a target="_blank" href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2549">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202712</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If we are looking for a paper to be responsible where does it stop?&lt;/i&gt;

Simon, let's ponder that question for a little while longer. Yes, you may be playing the role of agent provocateur, but with all due respect to St. Guinness, you're just not making sense. The slippery slope argument doesn't work.

Keeping the same question, replace the word "paper" with "government" -- or let's try "media" or "citizens" or "police" or "parent". If you apply the same logic to any of those terms (as some would argue for), what you resolve to is the state of choas. 

Or do you mean to suggest that, as a civilized society, we can no longer distinguish between right and wrong, common sense, and doing what's best for the greater good? Liberty requires discipline. Freedom unbridled, without laws or responsibility, is anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If we are looking for a paper to be responsible where does it stop?</i></p>
<p>Simon, let&#8217;s ponder that question for a little while longer. Yes, you may be playing the role of agent provocateur, but with all due respect to St. Guinness, you&#8217;re just not making sense. The slippery slope argument doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Keeping the same question, replace the word &#8220;paper&#8221; with &#8220;government&#8221; &#8212; or let&#8217;s try &#8220;media&#8221; or &#8220;citizens&#8221; or &#8220;police&#8221; or &#8220;parent&#8221;. If you apply the same logic to any of those terms (as some would argue for), what you resolve to is the state of choas. </p>
<p>Or do you mean to suggest that, as a civilized society, we can no longer distinguish between right and wrong, common sense, and doing what&#8217;s best for the greater good? Liberty requires discipline. Freedom unbridled, without laws or responsibility, is anarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202689</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But they are free to do what they wish they are free to be irresponsible in your words. If we are looking for a paper to be responsible where does it stop. For instance a paper publishing that the interest rises are coming for instance would result in a dent in the housing sector. Denting the economy it could be said that it would be responsible not to publish but they do. 

Also it wasn't very responsible for the Danish cartoons to be published but they were. Freedom is freedom whether we agree on what they say or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But they are free to do what they wish they are free to be irresponsible in your words. If we are looking for a paper to be responsible where does it stop. For instance a paper publishing that the interest rises are coming for instance would result in a dent in the housing sector. Denting the economy it could be said that it would be responsible not to publish but they do. </p>
<p>Also it wasn&#8217;t very responsible for the Danish cartoons to be published but they were. Freedom is freedom whether we agree on what they say or not.</p>
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		<title>By: PartisanTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202640</link>
		<dc:creator>PartisanTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;National Security Be Damned! Says NY And LA Times -- UPDATED&lt;/strong&gt;

(Scroll down for updates.) Despite appeals from the Bush Administration as well as several current and former government officials â€” both Democrat and Republican â€” the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times decided to break a story today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>National Security Be Damned! Says NY And LA Times &#8212; UPDATED</strong></p>
<p>(Scroll down for updates.) Despite appeals from the Bush Administration as well as several current and former government officials â€” both Democrat and Republican â€” the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times decided to break a story today</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202602</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. But what we're advocating is responsibility -- something the news media is shrugging off these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. But what we&#8217;re advocating is responsibility &#8212; something the news media is shrugging off these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Debate Swirls Around Terror Bank Data&lt;/strong&gt;

A secret Bush administration program to track people suspected of bankrolling terrorism drew protest</description>
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<p>A secret Bush administration program to track people suspected of bankrolling terrorism drew protest</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/enemies-are-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-202493</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you are not advocating state intervention in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you are not advocating state intervention in business.</p>
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