Comments on: Al-Qaida Calls for Holy War Against Israel — And The Rest of The World, Too… http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/ Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM) Fri, 25 May 2012 23:16:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: California Conservative » Pope Benedict XVI is Right: Radical Islam Preaches Hate and Violence http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-263296 California Conservative » Pope Benedict XVI is Right: Radical Islam Preaches Hate and Violence Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:06:59 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-263296 [...] Benedict, who used the terms “jihad” and “holy war,” repeatedly quoted Manuel’s argument that spreading the faith through violence is unreasonable, adding: “Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul.” — Reuters News, 9/14/06 Jihad?* Holy war? Where have we heard that before?* [...] [...] Benedict, who used the terms “jihad” and “holy war,” repeatedly quoted Manuel’s argument that spreading the faith through violence is unreasonable, adding: “Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul.” — Reuters News, 9/14/06 Jihad?* Holy war? Where have we heard that before?* [...]

]]> By: Tel-Chai Nation http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-236790 Tel-Chai Nation Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:53:14 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-236790 <strong>The armed agents of Islamic jihad</strong> Following the murder and wounding of five other women in Seattle, Michelle Malkin's got a list of several other Islamic jihadists over the years, supposedly loners in their intentions, but really agents of a much larger death cult. The armed agents of Islamic jihad

Following the murder and wounding of five other women in Seattle, Michelle Malkin’s got a list of several other Islamic jihadists over the years, supposedly loners in their intentions, but really agents of a much larger death cult.

]]> By: Webloggin - Blog Archive » "Hate Crime" My Ass http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-236664 Webloggin - Blog Archive » "Hate Crime" My Ass Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:13:40 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-236664 [...] California Conservative: Al-Qaida Calls for Holy War Against Israel — And The Rest of The World, Too… [...] [...] California Conservative: Al-Qaida Calls for Holy War Against Israel — And The Rest of The World, Too… [...]

]]> By: Joseph Kach http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-234163 Joseph Kach Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:53:54 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-234163 Now this is remarkable. Again, I marvel at your ability to produce this shell of satire. Clever, by the way, re-spelling my name as "Josef". Like Stalin, right? Man, that is good. If you came up with that yourself, you have to teach me your secrets. And then the Hitler thing! Awesome. I cannot think of a more illogical and juvenile way to turn the tide of a conversation to your end other than calling a man a Nazi for showing his belief that mankind can & should be better than this. But be careful, man, the act is slipping a little. See, over here, you pointed out that my non-violent point of view somehow makes me Hitler. But then you go ahead & make a comment about military combatants having to fight dirty out in the "real world". "There is no fair fight in a war" right? See what I mean. I get what you're trying to do, but you should revise some wording. Because, to me, advocating & supporting the deaths of 400+ noncombatant civilians sounds more like Hitler than someone who's just asking people to think a little bit before demonstrating yet another tried & true knee-jerk reaction. But, what do I know? I've only read a few books here & there. Speaking of which, & as luck would have it, I *have* read about these events that you mentioned. (Good call mentioning 9/11 first, by the way. Once again you've shown your ability to exploit yet another Conservative stereotype, that being the invocation of 9/11 to guilt people out of disagreeing with you. If I put your hat on, I'd maybe say something like "And wasn't that like 5 years ago? Geez, get over it already." Also, the tape that was sent to the media prior to 9/11 with Zawaheri making direct threats against the U.S., can you remind me what was said? I'm drawing a blank. Thanks.) OK, let's take a quick look. London, 7/7/05, train bombings- Now, maybe it's because I'm basing my views on reality, rather than figments of my paranoid imagination, the only "link" to Al Qaeda was the mention of Bin Laden, al-Zawahri, and al-Zarqawi as "heroes" by one of the suicide bombers. So, a fanatical suicide bomber idolizing members of Al-Qaeda? OK, you're right, that must mean they share a toilet. In fact, here's a quote from BBC (I know, it's a UK news source, not American, so therefore more than likely unreliable, correct?)that supports your take: "The extent of Al-Qaeda involvement in the attacks, which killed 52 people, also remained unclear." And "there is little in their backgrounds which mark them out as particularly vulnerable to radicalisation". Oh, oops, that's not what you wanted. Sorry. Next: Madrid, Spain, 3/11/04- train bombings: "the 11 March attacks were on a scale far exceeding anything previously attempted by a European militant organisation. This led some to point out that the tactics used were more typical of Islamic militant extremist groups, perhaps with a certain link to Al-Qaeda." So, *perhaps* there is a *certain link* b/c they are Arab Militants. Yeah, I can see that correlation. Oh, wait, "Nowadays, Judge Del Olmo assigns the responsibility to "local cells of Islamic extremists inspired through the Internet", not Al-Qaeda, GIA or Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group." Huh, no direct connection there, either. Uh oh . . . & I could go on to. I could also mention that the majority of terrorist attacks that have been directly tied to Al Qaeda have mainly been localized to the Middle East, like Riyadh & Amman. I'll let you figure out the corresponding country. But they don't count, right? What's a few more dead Arabs? And, besides all that, I thought I had made it clear I was talking about following through with threats made to America. Let me know if I slept through one or something. And in all seriousness, this is all semantics. My point is any time a video is shown featuring an angry brown person in a turban, this country freaks out & goes on mattress & duct tape shopping sprees, once again fueling the government's perception of how easy we puppet people are to control. I came to this site hoping to engage myself in an educated discourse with people who view things differently than me, in a hope to learn something, or shed light on a situation. And yet, to no one's surprise, I get the same, old, tired, "Have you forgotten 9/11, man? When the Iraqis attacked us! You don't support us? You're a freakin' Nazi, man!" But, I understand, I suppose, that it is the good, God-fearing Christian point of view to promote & endorse hatred & death in a part of the world they'll never set foot on. Isn't that Jesus did? Gathered large armies of the uneducated & had them destroy other countries who only he deemed an international threat? Yeah, that seems like something Jesus would support. And, of course, you focused on one aspect of my post, & then told me to do some reading, though you hadn't even bothered to fully read what it was I had typed, because suddenly we're back at 9/11, we're in London, we're in Spain, we're in Italy, & Al Qaeda, the Phantom Menace, is everywhere! Oooohhh . . . spooky! And then the rest of my post is conveniently ignored. So, I've not found what I was hoping for & will leave you in your little wrong-Right world. I'm sorry if I have violated your personal space. And one last thing: I Know quite a few "good, Conservative Christians." I grew up in Fresno. And while I may not agree with everything they believe either, they have shown me that people like you are not really conservative. You're just a bunch of assholes trying to force a misguided agenda on other people & enjoy being told what to do & how to think. Congratulations. And the Hitler comment was pretty pathetic. Only one person I can think of right now who comes pretty close to Hitler in the way they run a country & tend to foreign policy, & it's probably the guy you voted for in 2004. Thanks again, --J. Now this is remarkable. Again, I marvel at your ability to produce this shell of satire. Clever, by the way, re-spelling my name as “Josef”. Like Stalin, right? Man, that is good. If you came up with that yourself, you have to teach me your secrets. And then the Hitler thing! Awesome. I cannot think of a more illogical and juvenile way to turn the tide of a conversation to your end other than calling a man a Nazi for showing his belief that mankind can & should be better than this. But be careful, man, the act is slipping a little. See, over here, you pointed out that my non-violent point of view somehow makes me Hitler. But then you go ahead & make a comment about military combatants having to fight dirty out in the “real world”. “There is no fair fight in a war” right? See what I mean. I get what you’re trying to do, but you should revise some wording. Because, to me, advocating & supporting the deaths of 400+ noncombatant civilians sounds more like Hitler than someone who’s just asking people to think a little bit before demonstrating yet another tried & true knee-jerk reaction. But, what do I know? I’ve only read a few books here & there.
Speaking of which, & as luck would have it, I *have* read about these events that you mentioned. (Good call mentioning 9/11 first, by the way. Once again you’ve shown your ability to exploit yet another Conservative stereotype, that being the invocation of 9/11 to guilt people out of disagreeing with you. If I put your hat on, I’d maybe say something like “And wasn’t that like 5 years ago? Geez, get over it already.” Also, the tape that was sent to the media prior to 9/11 with Zawaheri making direct threats against the U.S., can you remind me what was said? I’m drawing a blank. Thanks.) OK, let’s take a quick look.
London, 7/7/05, train bombings- Now, maybe it’s because I’m basing my views on reality, rather than figments of my paranoid imagination, the only “link” to Al Qaeda was the mention of Bin Laden, al-Zawahri, and al-Zarqawi as “heroes” by one of the suicide bombers. So, a fanatical suicide bomber idolizing members of Al-Qaeda? OK, you’re right, that must mean they share a toilet.
In fact, here’s a quote from BBC (I know, it’s a UK news source, not American, so therefore more than likely unreliable, correct?)that supports your take:
“The extent of Al-Qaeda involvement in the attacks, which killed 52 people, also remained unclear.” And “there is little in their backgrounds which mark them out as particularly vulnerable to radicalisation”.
Oh, oops, that’s not what you wanted. Sorry. Next:
Madrid, Spain, 3/11/04- train bombings: “the 11 March attacks were on a scale far exceeding anything previously attempted by a European militant organisation. This led some to point out that the tactics used were more typical of Islamic militant extremist groups, perhaps with a certain link to Al-Qaeda.” So, *perhaps* there is a *certain link* b/c they are Arab Militants. Yeah, I can see that correlation. Oh, wait, “Nowadays, Judge Del Olmo assigns the responsibility to “local cells of Islamic extremists inspired through the Internet”, not Al-Qaeda, GIA or Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group.” Huh, no direct connection there, either. Uh oh . . . & I could go on to. I could also mention that the majority of terrorist attacks that have been directly tied to Al Qaeda have mainly been localized to the Middle East, like Riyadh & Amman. I’ll let you figure out the corresponding country. But they don’t count, right? What’s a few more dead Arabs? And, besides all that, I thought I had made it clear I was talking about following through with threats made to America. Let me know if I slept through one or something.

And in all seriousness, this is all semantics. My point is any time a video is shown featuring an angry brown person in a turban, this country freaks out & goes on mattress & duct tape shopping sprees, once again fueling the government’s perception of how easy we puppet people are to control.

I came to this site hoping to engage myself in an educated discourse with people who view things differently than me, in a hope to learn something, or shed light on a situation. And yet, to no one’s surprise, I get the same, old, tired, “Have you forgotten 9/11, man? When the Iraqis attacked us! You don’t support us? You’re a freakin’ Nazi, man!” But, I understand, I suppose, that it is the good, God-fearing Christian point of view to promote & endorse hatred & death in a part of the world they’ll never set foot on. Isn’t that Jesus did? Gathered large armies of the uneducated & had them destroy other countries who only he deemed an international threat? Yeah, that seems like something Jesus would support.

And, of course, you focused on one aspect of my post, & then told me to do some reading, though you hadn’t even bothered to fully read what it was I had typed, because suddenly we’re back at 9/11, we’re in London, we’re in Spain, we’re in Italy, & Al Qaeda, the Phantom Menace, is everywhere! Oooohhh . . . spooky! And then the rest of my post is conveniently ignored.
So, I’ve not found what I was hoping for & will leave you in your little wrong-Right world. I’m sorry if I have violated your personal space.
And one last thing: I Know quite a few “good, Conservative Christians.” I grew up in Fresno. And while I may not agree with everything they believe either, they have shown me that people like you are not really conservative. You’re just a bunch of assholes trying to force a misguided agenda on other people & enjoy being told what to do & how to think. Congratulations.
And the Hitler comment was pretty pathetic. Only one person I can think of right now who comes pretty close to Hitler in the way they run a country & tend to foreign policy, & it’s probably the guy you voted for in 2004.

Thanks again,
–J.

]]> By: California Conservative http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233782 California Conservative Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:52:51 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233782 <i>Or what if it's just the pointless rants of a bloodthirsty madman, who's grasping for straws and has no intention of making good on his threats, in an effort to manipulate people into joining his ridiculous war?</i> Hey Josef Kach, where were you when Hitler needed you? Remember 9/11. London. Italy. Spain. India. Need we go on? If you need more proof that al-Qaeda is "making good" on its threats, call us when your done reading the New York Times. Or what if it’s just the pointless rants of a bloodthirsty madman, who’s grasping for straws and has no intention of making good on his threats, in an effort to manipulate people into joining his ridiculous war?

Hey Josef Kach, where were you when Hitler needed you?

Remember 9/11. London. Italy. Spain. India. Need we go on? If you need more proof that al-Qaeda is “making good” on its threats, call us when your done reading the New York Times.

]]> By: Joseph Kach http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233543 Joseph Kach Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:45:30 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233543 Or what if it's just the pointless rants of a bloodthirsty madman, who's grasping for straws and has no intention of making good on his threats, in an effort to manipulate people into joining his ridiculous war? And since the government is so concerned for it's people's safety, why has nothing been done to deter North Korea, which is presenting slightly more evidence of destructive capability than a beat-up, low quality VHS tape? Or is it just this whole "Islam" thing that the religious Right finds so threatening to their moral values, much like the way that allowing Gay Marriage (as opposed to, let's say, Michael Jackson, Joan Collins, J.Lo, & Britney Spears) would destroy all marriages in America? And last, how does it feel knowing that you can be driven to such an overblown, "the sky is falling!"-type, and with all due respect, slightly cowardly, reaction- based on a transcript of the aforementioned VHS tape of a man who has yet to follow through on a single major threat he's made, and play right into his hands? Or what if it’s just the pointless rants of a bloodthirsty madman, who’s grasping for straws and has no intention of making good on his threats, in an effort to manipulate people into joining his ridiculous war?

And since the government is so concerned for it’s people’s safety, why has nothing been done to deter North Korea, which is presenting slightly more evidence of destructive capability than a beat-up, low quality VHS tape? Or is it just this whole “Islam” thing that the religious Right finds so threatening to their moral values, much like the way that allowing Gay Marriage (as opposed to, let’s say, Michael Jackson, Joan Collins, J.Lo, & Britney Spears) would destroy all marriages in America?

And last, how does it feel knowing that you can be driven to such an overblown, “the sky is falling!”-type, and with all due respect, slightly cowardly, reaction- based on a transcript of the aforementioned VHS tape of a man who has yet to follow through on a single major threat he’s made, and play right into his hands?

]]> By: Chris http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233444 Chris Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:13:34 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233444 It's absolutely astonishing how well Islamo-fascists like al-Zawahri know how to appeal to leftist sympathies and talking points. I keep thinking of bin Laden quoting chapter and verse from Michael Moore before the election. they know darn well that they simply have to appeal to leftist identity philosophy to get folks like Sheehan eating from their hands and acting as their apologists and enablers. It’s absolutely astonishing how well Islamo-fascists like al-Zawahri know how to appeal to leftist sympathies and talking points. I keep thinking of bin Laden quoting chapter and verse from Michael Moore before the election. they know darn well that they simply have to appeal to leftist identity philosophy to get folks like Sheehan eating from their hands and acting as their apologists and enablers.

]]> By: Comparing American WWII GIs To Terrorists at 4thelittleguy.com http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233403 Comparing American WWII GIs To Terrorists at 4thelittleguy.com Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:59:44 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233403 [...] More at: Expose the Left (this is the place to go for transcripts and video of the interview) Wizbang California Conservative Sister Toldjah Hot Air [...] [...] More at: Expose the Left (this is the place to go for transcripts and video of the interview) Wizbang California Conservative Sister Toldjah Hot Air [...]

]]> By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233255 Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:02:12 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233255 <strong>Al-Zawahri Calls for Muslims to Rise Up</strong> Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday for Muslims to rise up in a holy war agains Al-Zawahri Calls for Muslims to Rise Up

Al-Qaida’s No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday for Muslims to rise up in a holy war agains

]]> By: Benn http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233240 Benn Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:40:25 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233240 California is a state full of Liberals run by Liberals and ONLY Liberals choose to live there. Burn, baby burn! California is a state full of Liberals run by Liberals and ONLY Liberals choose to live there. Burn, baby burn!

]]> By: From the Mind of Splittfinger http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233102 From the Mind of Splittfinger Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:29:15 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233102 <strong>World War III Begins</strong>     I was waiting for this to happen, and it did. This will result in some casualties in the US at some... World War III Begins

    I was waiting for this to happen, and it did. This will result in some casualties in the US at some…

]]> By: Morning Coffee http://www.californiaconservative.org/liberals/al-qaida-calls-for-holy-war-against-israel-and-the-rest-of-the-world-too/comment-page-1/#comment-233098 Morning Coffee Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:23:22 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3540#comment-233098 <strong>To everyones suprise Zawahiri calls for Jihad…</strong> In his video he looks a bit thin… think he has joined Cindy Sheehan and Saddam Hussein on their Hunger strike?? If so I wonder if he can get smoothies delivered to his cave? ... To everyones suprise Zawahiri calls for Jihad…

In his video he looks a bit thin… think he has joined Cindy Sheehan and Saddam Hussein on their Hunger strike?? If so I wonder if he can get smoothies delivered to his cave?
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