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OK, so now tell me what he that was not true.

Jim — I did. [see above] …or doesn’t it count unless CC says it? Why oh why are you so prejudiced and intolerant of me?!?!?

You’re welcome. Feel free to join in and rebut any of my comments, at any time.

No? What happened to your certainty?

GITMO got your tongue?

Ah Neocon newspeak yet again. Now you tell us, regardless of whether you find the language “over the line”, just what part of Durbin’s statement was false. What did he say that wasn’t true?

What does “anti-American” mean? The California Bigot (uh, sorry, Conservative) has one of the most blatant mis-uses of this phrase that I have seen for a while…if not ever…

June 22, 2005
Liberals OK Soldier Killing Superior

[The] California Conservative writes in to tell us about an instance where a U.S. Soldier killed his [...]

Has anyone really thought through this “terrorists are created by US actions” idea? Many times others have been unfair, hostile or outright intentionally harmful to the US in their foreign policy and members of this civilization have not chosen to fly their planes into their buildings. Might there be something beyond what the US does that motivates these souls?

In fact, might it not be terribly disrespectful to the point of being insulting to intimate that they live only in reaction to US actions? Is it not self-centered in the extreme to assume that ‘our brown brothers’ might not have reasons and motivations borne entirely of their culture and world view and not simply all about US?

And the US Constitution is not a universal document — other countries have their own. If one is not a citizen of the US, one has no rights under the US Constitution. If one is not a citizen of Afghanistan, one has no rights under the Afghani Constitution.

Making it “normal” — thus acceptable — through constant exposure for someone to have, say, different ‘cultural values,’ speak a different version of English or have a different ‘family structure’ is now a completely foreign concept? And would relate not at all to the effects of the constant harping of Kennedy, Durbin, Pelosi, AI, et al about “torture” which is not torture and “American imperialism” though we keep giving the countries back and paying to rebuild them and “it’s our fault they hate us,” which is codependent self-sabotage, upon the weak-willed and, shall we say, easily influenced among us?

So, if one is not to blame any news or propaganda for normalizing things previously thought to be out of bounds, what is it that happened with the radio programming in 1935-40 Europe?

Words are tools: they are the handles by which we manipulate ideas. A hammer can be used to build a beautiful home — or to beat a math teacher’s head in. A pencil can be used to write a sonnet– or to poke your eye out. Words require similar responsible usage.

Here’s an idea - join the Army and go find out.

It was plain ol’ criminal guilt - he was under investigation for “irregularities” associated with his job as supply sergeant. Esposito, as his Commanding Officer, would have been the officer who initiated the investigation.

So the guy was a crook who was pilfering Army supplies, and he killed his CO in the hope of wiggling out of it.

No evil Liberals. No evil peaceniks. No crazy voices saying, “kill the pigs!”

Just plain ol’ criminality.

You should get a cold drink next time your thinking gets that feverish.

It might be a good idea for us to start reexamining history, specifically that of ancient Athens – the first democracy in recorded history, and the font of Western civilization. It too was, at its height, a “shining city on the hill”; a center of wealth, knowledge, and enlightened thinking. Then a few corrupt and unscrupulous politicians, dissatisfied with having to share power with the masses, started beating the drum for war. Oh, they had an argument for everyone – to the war lovers, they promised glorious military victories; to the greedy, they promised the plunder of conquered foes; to the fearful, they cited the threat of jealous rivals (and even hired thugs to set a few buildings ablaze and blamed it on “foreign spies”); and to the idealistic, they promised to topple the tyrannies of their backwards neighbors and spread the enlightened ideals of Athens to the rest of the world. Soon, the people were convinced, and swept up in this call for empire.

There was a lone dissenting voice – a fellow by the name of Socrates – who warned that not only was this plan immoral, it would also squander the wealth of Athens, and make a lot of unnecessary enemies. They ignored him, of course, and set forth on their campaign of conquest. As Socrates predicted, things went south fairly quickly. Not only did their invasions fail (the fools actually tried to take on Sparta, at one point), but they also signed away many of their democratic freedoms in the name of “homeland security”. Eventually, their military was destroyed, and they found themselves under siege by a coalition of newly-created enemies. Desperate and starving, the people sought someone to blame. Did they blame themselves? Of course not. Did they blame the politicians that had led them down this path? By that that time, these men had become far too powerful and had taken control of the means of public discourse, so that wasn’t about to happen. No, they blamed the one person who had tried to warn them of their folly, claiming, against all logic, that this tiny and ignored minority had somehow undermined the people’s will to fight. Eventually, Socrates was tried, convicted, and executed. The official charge was “corruption of the youth” (“against family values” might be another way of putting it).

Any of this sound familiar? Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, as the saying goes. It is also interesting to note that none of the politicians that led Athens to ruin are commonly known today, but Socrates fame will likely be eternal.

The traitors are those who let the terrorists win without a fight. Those of you who are so willing and egar to throw our cherished way of life and our great American traditions (open govt., free press, free speech) down the toilet are doing just that.

That’s right. We do have obligations. We have, as invaders, the obligation to treat the citizens of the country that we have invaded with decency.

It sounds like you would prefer to think that we have no obligations, to the people that we’ve conquered. That we should just be able to go over, kick the shite out of everbody, do whatever we want ’cause we have the guns?

Does that sound decent to you?