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		<title>By: Burst Blog &#187; Karl Rove Resigns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burst Blog &#187; Karl Rove Resigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: T. A. Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. A. Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Duh!

The Presidency is after all a political office and Rove is hardly the first Chief of Staff or Political advisor that got involved in (gasp) politics. 

I have to agree with Rocky, nonetheless, to a point, that some of these firings of Federal Attorneys do have some strange coincidences; the firing of the San Diego DA after she successfully, prosecuted Randy Cunningham for example.

And as far as the countercharge that  Clinton fired all of them from the git go; well, maybe thats what Bush should have done as well.  Look, tinkering around with judicial officials has a long traition (Marbury vs Madison) and no matter how much we appreciate Marshalls logical and eloquent opinion in that case, it was still quite political in its premis.

However, lets be real about something else, how much of that was Roves doing, if any? So why are we not surprised by the grandstanding, and the witch hunt put on by Waxman, Leahy, Schumer and that bunch of goons.  Beause its getting to be common practice ad nauseatum.  There not may be anything here, but what the hell, lets make something of it anyway, so the media can start another drum beat and we can see how many dumb and ignorant we can impress with ourselves.

Neither side has much much to be proud of far as I can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Duh!</p>
<p>The Presidency is after all a political office and Rove is hardly the first Chief of Staff or Political advisor that got involved in (gasp) politics. </p>
<p>I have to agree with Rocky, nonetheless, to a point, that some of these firings of Federal Attorneys do have some strange coincidences; the firing of the San Diego DA after she successfully, prosecuted Randy Cunningham for example.</p>
<p>And as far as the countercharge that  Clinton fired all of them from the git go; well, maybe thats what Bush should have done as well.  Look, tinkering around with judicial officials has a long traition (Marbury vs Madison) and no matter how much we appreciate Marshalls logical and eloquent opinion in that case, it was still quite political in its premis.</p>
<p>However, lets be real about something else, how much of that was Roves doing, if any? So why are we not surprised by the grandstanding, and the witch hunt put on by Waxman, Leahy, Schumer and that bunch of goons.  Beause its getting to be common practice ad nauseatum.  There not may be anything here, but what the hell, lets make something of it anyway, so the media can start another drum beat and we can see how many dumb and ignorant we can impress with ourselves.</p>
<p>Neither side has much much to be proud of far as I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What AG scandal?

No, really... you don't think Rove's involvement with the politicization of the entire government mechanism charged with enforcing the rule of law qualifies as &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/opinion/14tue1.html?_r=1&#38;hp&#38;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow"&gt;a scandal&lt;/a&gt;?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Rove appears to have been deeply involved in the decision to fire nine top federal prosecutors, apparently for either bringing cases that hurt Republicans or refusing to bring cases to punish Democrats. There is also mounting evidence that he turned nonpartisan agencies into campaign boosters, quite possibly violating federal law. Earlier this month, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales admitted that Justice Department officials attended political briefings at the White House, some led by Mr. Rove. Officials at the General Services Administration and Peace Corps, and even six American ambassadors, among others, were also given briefings.

Mr. Rove has stonewalled Congress’s legitimate efforts to investigate. Some of his key e-mail messages on the United States attorneys matter appear to have mysteriously disappeared, while others are being withheld with baseless claims of executive privilege. As for defying that Senate subpoena, some subjects might have been protected by privilege, but Mr. Rove’s refusal to show up at all is outrageous — although totally in keeping with his and his boss’s disdain for the separation of powers.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And here's the meat of the argument regarding &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032901962.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Rove's violation of the Hatch Act&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter to White House political affairs director Karl Rove, the committee chairman, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.), asked about the Jan. 26 videoconference by Rove deputy J. Scott Jennings, which was directed to the chief of the GSA and as many as 40 agency officials stationed around the country.
	
Jennings's 28-page presentation included 2006 election results and listed the names of Democratic candidates considered beatable and Republican lawmakers thought to need help. At a hearing Wednesday about the GSA, Waxman said the presentation and follow-up remarks allegedly made by agency chief Lurita Alexis Doan may have violated the Hatch Act, a law that restricts federal agencies and employees from using their positions for political purposes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But I've got to hand it to you Carlos; sliding that reference to Bubba and the rotten odor.  I really didn't think that you'd attempt to blame the current gutter-level politics on Clinton, but there you go.  

Of course, that assumes that I think we're at a level that would qualify as gutter, but I can't fit that in with the idea that a campaign would push-poll against one of their own, going so far as to suggest the opponent had an illegitimate racially diverse offspring.  I understood it when they used the tactic on Ann Richards (and her *all lesbian* staff); she was from the other side.  Gutter level?  No, that would be an impossible stretch upwards from the level of poltical discourse today.

And besides, didn't you tell me recently that I should just get over the 2000 election?  Put it behind me... well, physician, heal thyself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What AG scandal?</p>
<p>No, really&#8230; you don&#8217;t think Rove&#8217;s involvement with the politicization of the entire government mechanism charged with enforcing the rule of law qualifies as <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/opinion/14tue1.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">a scandal</a>?</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Rove appears to have been deeply involved in the decision to fire nine top federal prosecutors, apparently for either bringing cases that hurt Republicans or refusing to bring cases to punish Democrats. There is also mounting evidence that he turned nonpartisan agencies into campaign boosters, quite possibly violating federal law. Earlier this month, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales admitted that Justice Department officials attended political briefings at the White House, some led by Mr. Rove. Officials at the General Services Administration and Peace Corps, and even six American ambassadors, among others, were also given briefings.</p>
<p>Mr. Rove has stonewalled Congress’s legitimate efforts to investigate. Some of his key e-mail messages on the United States attorneys matter appear to have mysteriously disappeared, while others are being withheld with baseless claims of executive privilege. As for defying that Senate subpoena, some subjects might have been protected by privilege, but Mr. Rove’s refusal to show up at all is outrageous — although totally in keeping with his and his boss’s disdain for the separation of powers.
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<p>And here&#8217;s the meat of the argument regarding <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032901962.html" rel="nofollow">Rove&#8217;s violation of the Hatch Act</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter to White House political affairs director Karl Rove, the committee chairman, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.), asked about the Jan. 26 videoconference by Rove deputy J. Scott Jennings, which was directed to the chief of the GSA and as many as 40 agency officials stationed around the country.</p>
<p>Jennings&#8217;s 28-page presentation included 2006 election results and listed the names of Democratic candidates considered beatable and Republican lawmakers thought to need help. At a hearing Wednesday about the GSA, Waxman said the presentation and follow-up remarks allegedly made by agency chief Lurita Alexis Doan may have violated the Hatch Act, a law that restricts federal agencies and employees from using their positions for political purposes.</p></blockquote>
<p>But I&#8217;ve got to hand it to you Carlos; sliding that reference to Bubba and the rotten odor.  I really didn&#8217;t think that you&#8217;d attempt to blame the current gutter-level politics on Clinton, but there you go.  </p>
<p>Of course, that assumes that I think we&#8217;re at a level that would qualify as gutter, but I can&#8217;t fit that in with the idea that a campaign would push-poll against one of their own, going so far as to suggest the opponent had an illegitimate racially diverse offspring.  I understood it when they used the tactic on Ann Richards (and her *all lesbian* staff); she was from the other side.  Gutter level?  No, that would be an impossible stretch upwards from the level of poltical discourse today.</p>
<p>And besides, didn&#8217;t you tell me recently that I should just get over the 2000 election?  Put it behind me&#8230; well, physician, heal thyself.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What A.G. scandal?  Oh, yeah, the one the donkeys created to keep everyones' minds off the "do-less-than-nothing" Congress and off the outrageous privacy the donkeys want for their earmarks.  Transparency my hindside!

Have not a clue what you're talking about with the Hatch Act.

And the ranking donkeys that weren't also tainted by Abramhoff have their own sets of scandals the MSM doesn't want to deal with, to wit, things like illegal land deals in Nevada, military payoffs in CA, the "Big Dig" (into taxpayers pockets to pay off a few contractors), the fact Murtha is still an "unindicted co-conspirator, etc., etc.

Rocky, there is none so blind as he who will not see.  Wake up and smell the rot that Clinton left in 2001.  It infected BOTH parties.

IT'S THE POLITICIANS, STUPID!  Not the "cabal" or the elephants or just he and thee, it's the stinking system we, the people were too occupied to pay attention to and the thieves and scoundrels we keep electing are stealing us blind, from the prez and his "cabal" to the leadership of both parties to the stinking lobbyists (corporate and "non-corporate", like the unions and greens).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What A.G. scandal?  Oh, yeah, the one the donkeys created to keep everyones&#8217; minds off the &#8220;do-less-than-nothing&#8221; Congress and off the outrageous privacy the donkeys want for their earmarks.  Transparency my hindside!</p>
<p>Have not a clue what you&#8217;re talking about with the Hatch Act.</p>
<p>And the ranking donkeys that weren&#8217;t also tainted by Abramhoff have their own sets of scandals the MSM doesn&#8217;t want to deal with, to wit, things like illegal land deals in Nevada, military payoffs in CA, the &#8220;Big Dig&#8221; (into taxpayers pockets to pay off a few contractors), the fact Murtha is still an &#8220;unindicted co-conspirator, etc., etc.</p>
<p>Rocky, there is none so blind as he who will not see.  Wake up and smell the rot that Clinton left in 2001.  It infected BOTH parties.</p>
<p>IT&#8217;S THE POLITICIANS, STUPID!  Not the &#8220;cabal&#8221; or the elephants or just he and thee, it&#8217;s the stinking system we, the people were too occupied to pay attention to and the thieves and scoundrels we keep electing are stealing us blind, from the prez and his &#8220;cabal&#8221; to the leadership of both parties to the stinking lobbyists (corporate and &#8220;non-corporate&#8221;, like the unions and greens).</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;A giant what?&lt;/B&gt;

Moreover, why is Rove cutting and running?

There is, of course, more to this story.  Between the US attorney scandal, Rove's violation of the Hatch Act, the Abramhoff scandal... the list of indictable crimes goes on and on.  Perhaps getting while the getting is good?  We should expect a deal between the Cabal and Congress to be announced once the presnit is back from his annual August vacation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>A giant what?</b></p>
<p>Moreover, why is Rove cutting and running?</p>
<p>There is, of course, more to this story.  Between the US attorney scandal, Rove&#8217;s violation of the Hatch Act, the Abramhoff scandal&#8230; the list of indictable crimes goes on and on.  Perhaps getting while the getting is good?  We should expect a deal between the Cabal and Congress to be announced once the presnit is back from his annual August vacation.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rove?s Legacy...&lt;/strong&gt;

A roundup of thoughts on Karl Rove?s legacy, from comments on NYTimes.com and around the Web....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rove?s Legacy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A roundup of thoughts on Karl Rove?s legacy, from comments on NYTimes.com and around the Web&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: T. A. Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. A. Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there goes St. George.  Whose going to slay the dragons now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there goes St. George.  Whose going to slay the dragons now?</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&#8230; but who will haunt their nightmares now?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Yes, it&#8217;s true. The day that so many liberals wished and hoped for has finally come. Well, almost. Karl Rove, White House political advisor and sometimes eater of left-wing souls, has announced that he will resign at the end of August. It is a bi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8230; but who will haunt their nightmares now?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s true. The day that so many liberals wished and hoped for has finally come. Well, almost. Karl Rove, White House political advisor and sometimes eater of left-wing souls, has announced that he will resign at the end of August. It is a bi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Goodbye Karl Rove...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Presiden't chief political adviser is resigning.  Will AP now give us an update on the contents of Rove's garage? Inquiring minds want to know.  Jason Leopold will now have to find honest work, that's for sure....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Goodbye Karl Rove&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Presiden&#8217;t chief political adviser is resigning.  Will AP now give us an update on the contents of Rove&#8217;s garage? Inquiring minds want to know.  Jason Leopold will now have to find honest work, that&#8217;s for sure&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Let Freedom Ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Giant Exits The Stage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let Freedom Ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Giant Exits The Stage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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