Comments on: “Hawkish Democrat” Calls for Iraq Pullout http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/ Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM) Fri, 25 May 2012 19:08:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Free Credit Score http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-326609 Free Credit Score Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:50:21 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-326609 <strong>Free Credit Score...</strong> good work... Free Credit Score…

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]]> By: Dosser http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50874 Dosser Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:22:09 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50874 I don't believe this has parallels to the Vietnam conflict nor the Civil War. The part of the equation that people forget is the Al Qaeda element there that, if the intelligence is to be believed, are preparing for an imminent American pullout by planning for another Taliban type rule. We can't afford for that to happen. We can't leave until the US and Iraqi commanders on the ground are satisfied that the Iraqi security forces are ready. Can one seriously believe the Iraqis are ready now to take care of security? How will our standing with our allies be if we left prematurely? How will the Iraqi government see our premature pullout? How much bolder will Al Qaeda be knowing that they now know the American people so well? The future doesn't bode well if lack of vision permeates the government, Democrats and Republicans alike. I don’t believe this has parallels to the Vietnam conflict nor the Civil War. The part of the equation that people forget is the Al Qaeda element there that, if the intelligence is to be believed, are preparing for an imminent American pullout by planning for another Taliban type rule. We can’t afford for that to happen. We can’t leave until the US and Iraqi commanders on the ground are satisfied that the Iraqi security forces are ready. Can one seriously believe the Iraqis are ready now to take care of security? How will our standing with our allies be if we left prematurely? How will the Iraqi government see our premature pullout? How much bolder will Al Qaeda be knowing that they now know the American people so well? The future doesn’t bode well if lack of vision permeates the government, Democrats and Republicans alike.

]]> By: Tom in Texas http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50860 Tom in Texas Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:17:02 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50860 To leave for a moment the endless repetion of similarities to Vietnam, instead compare this war to the Civil War: not so much in terms of the war itself, but of Reconstruction. In my history class, we ended our semester with reconstruction because it must be understood along with the Civil War itself. The longer the Union troops stayed in the South, the more they were resented. The removal of opressive policies allowed a previously disenfranchised minority to show its newfound strength. The healing of the nation was accomplished only by giving the individual newly elected governors and political leaders the ability to train and support themselves. The sooner we can leave Iraq, the better off Iraqis will be. To leave for a moment the endless repetion of similarities to Vietnam, instead compare this war to the Civil War: not so much in terms of the war itself, but of Reconstruction. In my history class, we ended our semester with reconstruction because it must be understood along with the Civil War itself. The longer the Union troops stayed in the South, the more they were resented. The removal of opressive policies allowed a previously disenfranchised minority to show its newfound strength. The healing of the nation was accomplished only by giving the individual newly elected governors and political leaders the ability to train and support themselves. The sooner we can leave Iraq, the better off Iraqis will be.

]]> By: Dosser http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50827 Dosser Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:28:08 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50827 I'm no politician but even this doesn't make sense to me (pulling out immediately). Why is it that no-one listens to the Iraqis or the soldiers there? There ARE goals and they ARE being met. I guess it's too much to ask for to be rational. Some people are too mired in their feelings rather than common-sense. Facts confuse them too much. I’m no politician but even this doesn’t make sense to me (pulling out immediately). Why is it that no-one listens to the Iraqis or the soldiers there? There ARE goals and they ARE being met. I guess it’s too much to ask for to be rational. Some people are too mired in their feelings rather than common-sense. Facts confuse them too much.

]]> By: Stankleberry http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50688 Stankleberry Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:36:20 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50688 Hahaha, Steve and Richard Hartwick are dumb idiots. "Oh my god, every time America does anything it is wrong because foreigners said so." It's time for you guys to move to a country that is as dumb as you are. Then you can be happy and we won't have to listen to your retarded shit anymore. Hahaha, Steve and Richard Hartwick are dumb idiots. “Oh my god, every time America does anything it is wrong because foreigners said so.” It’s time for you guys to move to a country that is as dumb as you are. Then you can be happy and we won’t have to listen to your retarded shit anymore.

]]> By: California Conservative » Enough’s Enough http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50555 California Conservative » Enough’s Enough Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:22:33 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50555 [...] It’s Time For the President to Seize the Initiative » Big Turkey in Crawford » Enough’s Enough » Able Danger Hearings Gathering Momentum? » T.G.I.F. Trackback Party »“Hawkish” Democrat: Now, That’s A Headline » Did Bush Lie? » A Call To Action: Sacramento City Council’s Anti-War Resolution » For Heaven’s Sake: Hillary Clinton’s Prayer » Cheney Strikes Back » Preppy Protestor » “Hawkish Democrat” Calls for Iraq Pullout » “An Incomplete Investigation” » Muslim Terrorists: Our Enemies » Unpatriotic Lies and Hypocricy of The Left » Fitzgerald: OOPS!!! » Soldier Blogs from Iraq » Question of the Day » ABC, CBS & NBC: Shaping Viewers’ Political Perspectives, One Show At A Time List all posts » [...] [...] It’s Time For the President to Seize the Initiative » Big Turkey in Crawford » Enough’s Enough » Able Danger Hearings Gathering Momentum? » T.G.I.F. Trackback Party »“Hawkish” Democrat: Now, That’s A Headline » Did Bush Lie? » A Call To Action: Sacramento City Council’s Anti-War Resolution » For Heaven’s Sake: Hillary Clinton’s Prayer » Cheney Strikes Back » Preppy Protestor » “Hawkish Democrat” Calls for Iraq Pullout » “An Incomplete Investigation” » Muslim Terrorists: Our Enemies » Unpatriotic Lies and Hypocricy of The Left » Fitzgerald: OOPS!!! » Soldier Blogs from Iraq » Question of the Day » ABC, CBS & NBC: Shaping Viewers’ Political Perspectives, One Show At A Time List all posts » [...]

]]> By: Two Babes and a Brain http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50525 Two Babes and a Brain Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:46:12 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50525 <strong>How Do You Think Our Soldiers Feel....</strong> Now, Colonel Hunt, before you start yelling at me...I understand that Murtha is a war hero....I understand that he served his country. Which makes me wonder even more why he would make these statements. How Do You Think Our Soldiers Feel….

Now, Colonel Hunt, before you start yelling at me…I understand that Murtha is a war hero….I understand that he served his country. Which makes me wonder even more why he would make these statements.

]]> By: California Conservative » “Hawkish” Democrat: Now, That’s A Headline http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50499 California Conservative » “Hawkish” Democrat: Now, That’s A Headline Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:56:02 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50499 [...] “Hawkish” Democrat: Now, That’s A Headline » Did Bush Lie? » A Call To Action: Sacramento City Council’s Anti-War Resolution» For Heaven’s Sake: Hillary Clinton’s Prayer » Cheney Strikes Back » Preppy Protestor » “Hawkish Democrat” Calls for Iraq Pullout » “An Incomplete Investigation” » Muslim Terrorists: Our Enemies » Unpatriotic Lies and Hypocricy of The Left » Fitzgerald: OOPS!!! » Soldier Blogs from Iraq » Question of the Day » ABC, CBS & NBC: Shaping Viewers’ Political Perspectives, One Show At A Time » Clintons Announce Opposition to Iraq War » California Highway Patrolman, RIP » Playing Politics With The War » “If I Die Before You Wake”: A Song Honoring Our Troops » How To Save North Korea » Researchers: Hops in Beer May Be Healthy List all posts » [...] [...] “Hawkish” Democrat: Now, That’s A Headline » Did Bush Lie? » A Call To Action: Sacramento City Council’s Anti-War Resolution» For Heaven’s Sake: Hillary Clinton’s Prayer » Cheney Strikes Back » Preppy Protestor » “Hawkish Democrat” Calls for Iraq Pullout » “An Incomplete Investigation” » Muslim Terrorists: Our Enemies » Unpatriotic Lies and Hypocricy of The Left » Fitzgerald: OOPS!!! » Soldier Blogs from Iraq » Question of the Day » ABC, CBS & NBC: Shaping Viewers’ Political Perspectives, One Show At A Time » Clintons Announce Opposition to Iraq War » California Highway Patrolman, RIP » Playing Politics With The War » “If I Die Before You Wake”: A Song Honoring Our Troops » How To Save North Korea » Researchers: Hops in Beer May Be Healthy List all posts » [...]

]]> By: Richard Hartwick http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50494 Richard Hartwick Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:16:53 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50494 Why should I waste my time with you? I am 54, and have lived through Vietnam, Nixon, et al. This is the same thing. Get over it - we cannot invade another country and expect the world to love it, or for ourselves to love it. It is wrong; it was wrong when the Soviets did it (to which as I recall we more or less strenuously objected), and it is wrong now. Why should I waste my time with you? I am 54, and have lived through Vietnam, Nixon, et al. This is the same thing. Get over it - we cannot invade another country and expect the world to love it, or for ourselves to love it. It is wrong; it was wrong when the Soviets did it (to which as I recall we more or less strenuously objected), and it is wrong now.

]]> By: T. Longren http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50487 T. Longren Fri, 18 Nov 2005 03:09:16 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50487 <strong>Murtha Unaware of Consequences</strong> Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) is calling for an immediate withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. All the talk about Iraq deadlines and withdrawal dates recently must have the white flag industry here in the U.S. in a frenzy. Murtha isn’t ju... Murtha Unaware of Consequences

Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) is calling for an immediate withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. All the talk about Iraq deadlines and withdrawal dates recently must have the white flag industry here in the U.S. in a frenzy.
Murtha isn’t ju…

]]> By: A Blog For All http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50486 A Blog For All Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:56:32 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50486 <strong>Going Wobbly?</strong> So, we now come back to the present and calls from the Left to abandon ship, tuck tail and run, and to give up on the endeavor in Iraq and the Middle East. Hogwash... Going Wobbly?

So, we now come back to the present and calls from the Left to abandon ship, tuck tail and run, and to give up on the endeavor in Iraq and the Middle East. Hogwash…

]]> By: Don Surber http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50482 Don Surber Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:11:36 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50482 <strong>Abraham Lincoln Bush</strong> The Democratic Party crossed a line today for which there is no turning back. They have gone from being the Loyal Opposition to the Party of Appeasement. The Surrender Iraq movement propped up the alleged hawk John Murtha and had him deliver the tearfu... Abraham Lincoln Bush

The Democratic Party crossed a line today for which there is no turning back. They have gone from being the Loyal Opposition to the Party of Appeasement. The Surrender Iraq movement propped up the alleged hawk John Murtha and had him deliver the tearfu…

]]> By: steve http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50478 steve Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:52:09 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50478 you dissect his statement quickly but you don't ever look at his record. he's supported almost every pentagon spending increase which has come his way, he's fought consistently for more troops and more materials in iraq and he was a supporter of the war. his statement was focused on securing more supplies for the troops in iraq, which he has been fighting for since 2002. but i guess you'd rather just call him an idiot. oh, and it isn't appeasement since we created the terrorist problem. iraq is like vietnam in that we're locked into a war where we've completely misunderstsood our enemy and in which we have no goals, just endless fighting. you dissect his statement quickly but you don’t ever look at his record. he’s supported almost every pentagon spending increase which has come his way, he’s fought consistently for more troops and more materials in iraq and he was a supporter of the war.

his statement was focused on securing more supplies for the troops in iraq, which he has been fighting for since 2002.

but i guess you’d rather just call him an idiot.

oh, and it isn’t appeasement since we created the terrorist problem. iraq is like vietnam in that we’re locked into a war where we’ve completely misunderstsood our enemy and in which we have no goals, just endless fighting.

]]> By: Rightfielder http://www.californiaconservative.org/iraq/hawkish-democrat-calls-for-iraq-pullout/comment-page-1/#comment-50313 Rightfielder Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:53:18 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1486#comment-50313 Great Post. According to my research it will take 400,000 men to secure Iraq. They have 200,000 already trained. We have 150,000 there. As they keep training - we can pull back. Why are the Dems in such a hurry? Dec. 15th elections. THEY want chaos at that event worse than the insurgents do. Great Post.

According to my research it will take 400,000 men to secure Iraq.
They have 200,000 already trained.
We have 150,000 there.

As they keep training - we can pull back. Why are the Dems in such a hurry? Dec. 15th elections. THEY want chaos at that event worse than the insurgents do.

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