Comments on: People Are Noticing http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/ Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM) Fri, 25 May 2012 02:30:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Gary Gross http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-97061 Gary Gross Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:08:59 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-97061 <b>Ever heard of Douglas Wilde Governer of Virginia. He was a Black Governer. Get you facts together</b> What's the point you're trying to make? Wilder was a Democrat who succeeded Chuck Robb in VA. As far as I can tell, Wilder's irrelevant to this topic. Ever heard of Douglas Wilde Governer of Virginia. He was a Black Governer. Get you facts together

What’s the point you’re trying to make? Wilder was a Democrat who succeeded Chuck Robb in VA. As far as I can tell, Wilder’s irrelevant to this topic.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-97046 Eddie Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:19:24 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-97046 Ever heard of Douglas Wilde Governer of Virginia. He was a Black Governer. Get you facts together Ever heard of Douglas Wilde Governer of Virginia. He was a Black Governer. Get you facts together

]]> By: Gary Gross http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-95369 Gary Gross Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:12:12 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-95369 My point in citing the Hispanic vote is because Reagan's 1984 re-election campaign was the only time a Republican split the Hispanic vote prior to President Bush's re-election campaign. As for it being an uphill battle, that's a given. You don't go from 9% in 2000 to a majority in 2006. The significance of the change is that the staunchest African-American cohort for Democrats are the oldest African-Americans. The weakest Democratic cohort are of the 25-50 age. The Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons, Belafontes and Bonds will be replaced with people like Lynn Swann, Michael Steele and Kenneth Blackwell, as well as Dr. Rice and Gen. Powell. It's the trend that's important to notice. My point in citing the Hispanic vote is because Reagan’s 1984 re-election campaign was the only time a Republican split the Hispanic vote prior to President Bush’s re-election campaign.

As for it being an uphill battle, that’s a given. You don’t go from 9% in 2000 to a majority in 2006.

The significance of the change is that the staunchest African-American cohort for Democrats are the oldest African-Americans. The weakest Democratic cohort are of the 25-50 age.

The Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons, Belafontes and Bonds will be replaced with people like Lynn Swann, Michael Steele and Kenneth Blackwell, as well as Dr. Rice and Gen. Powell.

It’s the trend that’s important to notice.

]]> By: Matthew http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-95320 Matthew Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:34:41 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-95320 Not saying it's impossible, just that they have an uphill battle. I also think comparing the Hispanic vote to the Black vote is comparing apples to oranges. Given that the Hispanics have tended to vote more strongly Republican in the past, you're going to have to keep an eye on how they vote in the upcoming elections. If you're still only splitting the vote with them, that's not so great, especially since you are dealing with a party that is, to be honest, floundering. Not saying it’s impossible, just that they have an uphill battle. I also think comparing the Hispanic vote to the Black vote is comparing apples to oranges. Given that the Hispanics have tended to vote more strongly Republican in the past, you’re going to have to keep an eye on how they vote in the upcoming elections. If you’re still only splitting the vote with them, that’s not so great, especially since you are dealing with a party that is, to be honest, floundering.

]]> By: Gary Gross http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-95265 Gary Gross Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:53:49 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-95265 <blockquote>What does it matter if you nominate a few black candidates? With something like a 2% approval rating amongst black Americans, such a move is still likely to be seen as nothing more than mere tokenism and pandering (even if it isn’t).</blockquote> The last I heard from a Republican strategist in Pennsylvania, Swann is pulling 26% of the black vote in a heads-up race against Ed Rendell, the incumbent Democrat. If that number holds, which it has since just before Thanksgiving, Rendell's sunk. Further, Steele's already leading in his matchup with Rep. Cardin. He's garnering significant support in the black community, though I don't have a percent on that yet. Democrats can put as much lipstick on that pig as they want but it isn't changing the fact that President Bush won 16% of the African-American vote in Ohio, which he won by 120K votes and 17% of the African-American vote in Florida, which he won by 330K votes. That isn't to mention the fact that President Bush SPLIT the Hispanic vote with Kerry. The monolith is crumbling, despite what race-haters like Belafonte & Bond say in their diatribes.

What does it matter if you nominate a few black candidates? With something like a 2% approval rating amongst black Americans, such a move is still likely to be seen as nothing more than mere tokenism and pandering (even if it isn’t).

The last I heard from a Republican strategist in Pennsylvania, Swann is pulling 26% of the black vote in a heads-up race against Ed Rendell, the incumbent Democrat. If that number holds, which it has since just before Thanksgiving, Rendell’s sunk.

Further, Steele’s already leading in his matchup with Rep. Cardin. He’s garnering significant support in the black community, though I don’t have a percent on that yet.

Democrats can put as much lipstick on that pig as they want but it isn’t changing the fact that President Bush won 16% of the African-American vote in Ohio, which he won by 120K votes and 17% of the African-American vote in Florida, which he won by 330K votes.

That isn’t to mention the fact that President Bush SPLIT the Hispanic vote with Kerry.

The monolith is crumbling, despite what race-haters like Belafonte & Bond say in their diatribes.

]]> By: Matthew http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-95256 Matthew Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:29:09 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-95256 What does it matter if you nominate a few black candidates? With something like a 2% approval rating amongst black Americans, such a move is still likely to be seen as nothing more than mere tokenism and pandering (even if it isn't). To be honest, can you blame them? What does it matter if you nominate a few black candidates? With something like a 2% approval rating amongst black Americans, such a move is still likely to be seen as nothing more than mere tokenism and pandering (even if it isn’t). To be honest, can you blame them?

]]> By: Defector http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-95103 Defector Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:01:04 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-95103 One problem with Mr. Morris's analysis (and he's a man I have the utmost respect for) is that he might not be aware of the power that so-called black leaders have over their community. We've seen how successful black conservatives have been demonized in Clarence Thomas, Janice Rogers Brown (especially here in California), Colin Powell (pre and post Bush II administration) and Condi Rice. I fear this will be no different as Steele (who has already been pelted with Oreos), Blackwell and Swann even will recieve the same sort of treatment by the african-americans who blindly follow the Democratic lead. I might very well be too pessimistic to Dick Morris's optimism but until the standard gets broken, Black Conservatives will constantly be seen as traitors in their own community. One problem with Mr. Morris’s analysis (and he’s a man I have the utmost respect for) is that he might not be aware of the power that so-called black leaders have over their community. We’ve seen how successful black conservatives have been demonized in Clarence Thomas, Janice Rogers Brown (especially here in California), Colin Powell (pre and post Bush II administration) and Condi Rice. I fear this will be no different as Steele (who has already been pelted with Oreos), Blackwell and Swann even will recieve the same sort of treatment by the african-americans who blindly follow the Democratic lead. I might very well be too pessimistic to Dick Morris’s optimism but until the standard gets broken, Black Conservatives will constantly be seen as traitors in their own community.

]]> By: Chief RZ http://www.californiaconservative.org/elections/people-are-noticing/comment-page-1/#comment-95102 Chief RZ Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:52:41 +0000 http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2209#comment-95102 Well put, people of accomplishment. They worked, learned, and earned their chance. They are not numbers or quotas. That not only affirms their qualifications, but challenges all others to shape up and make it on your own efforts. Well put, people of accomplishment. They worked, learned, and earned their chance. They are not numbers or quotas. That not only affirms their qualifications, but challenges all others to shape up and make it on your own efforts.

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