The Senate Bill that was passed this week might as well say to legal Americans, “Go to the back of the bus, and let the illegals take the front seats”. The United States isn’t the only place having illegal immigration

During that time, our cities could breath a little easier and focus on strengthening the infrastructure, our schools, helping the unemployed, the homeless and the hungry. Or do those things not exist? With all this talk about immigrants and “guest workers,” it sounds like we got jobs and resources to spare.

Mama always said we should “clean the house before inviting guests.”

I hope you’re right, and we get a firm hand in this bill. I, however, am less than optimistic because of recent past to current example(s). It is an election period and there are so many “Chamberlains” we just can’t tell one from the other anymore.

I mean, the Senate’s Chevy Maverick, McCain, has already taught us all a very valuable lesson … and our losers Boxer, Pelosi, Fiend-steen … The Green Lantos … ugh …

I just wish someone would go “Nugent” on their heads and straighten those dopes out in Wachingtun De Colores.

A little “Cat Scratch Fever” could go a loooong way here. ;)

Fix, Thanks for letting me know that. I can relate to that frustration. As you can see from my last comment, I think it’s likely (AND PREFERABLE) that we include the sane policies into this bill with the first priorities being on securing the border.

My best guess is that he’ll demand that there be proof that the border is sealed off before the earned citizenship program would start. I’m also betting that he’ll demand that the silly Dodd Amendment be eliminated and the Sessions Amendment be strengthened in conference. The Dodd Amendment simply says that we must consult with the Mexican government before we build the wall and the vehicle barriers. That thing’s history already. There’s no way that Sensenbrenner will consent to that. I suspect that Sensenbrenner might, at most, agree to a provision that says we’ll notify the Mexican government when and where we’ll build the barriers and walls.

We’ll almost certainly see the Sessions Amendment, which provides for 370 miles of triple-layered walls and 500 miles of vehicle barriers, strengthened to a number much closer to the House’s 700 miles of triple-layered walls.

Bush, walking down the White House Colonnade with British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Friday morning, ignored a shouted question about whether the House and Senate will be able to compromise. But he did say that an effective measure would protect U.S. borders, make employers responsible for people they hire, create a temporary worker program, deal with the illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and “honor America’s great tradition of the melting pot.”

If you read between the lines, you see the outlines for a compromise coming out. Notice that the President is saying that securing the border and holding employers accountable is as much a priority of his as the temp worker program and dealing with illegal immigrants. I don’t think that that’s the type of thing that Ted Kennedy, John McCain and Dick Durbin want to hear.

Notice that the enforcement parts are the first priorities. Those priorities must be achieved before the other provisions get triggered. PERIOD. NO COMPROMISING ON THAT.

That said, we should put those provisions into the bill with the promise that they don’t go forward these certain conditions are met:

1. The Border Patrol staff is beefed up.
2. The biometric card is implemented.
3. The wall and the vehicle barriers are built.

The normalization and guest worker processes don’t start until those provisions are met first.

I think we can agree on that. At least I hope we can.

History is a great place to start, it’s just the end that gets messy.

So, we should hand over everything, like Roe-v-Wade, to people that have already committed an illegal act, is what you are asking me to agree to?

And, to be comprehensive, why don’t we do this bit-by-bit? Who says we have to jam everything into one FRIGGIN’ bill?! Get the damn fence built, TOMORROW!

Then, go after the employers, ASAP.

And I don’t care if prices go up. I really don’t, because, I believe in the rule of law, ethics, and capitalism. Therefore, gimme good goods from good people, and I’ll pay …

Sorry, we differ, and that’s OK. I’m just bummed that there are so many willing to cave on what little thing, and not see towards the future.

Like, yeah, Roe-v-Wade wss just a small sacrifice … being softer on crime is OK … OK, just one more bond issue and then I’m done …

I’ve got a few numbers for ya: 187.

That’s PROP 187!!! I’m still fuming!!! And we are paying the price now for not fighting hard enough back then …

To be a stubborn, no-compromise conservative is to be a minority party. PERIOD. It’s unrealistic to think that we can win elections if we don’t adopt a comprehensive approach to this issue.

That doesn’t mean that I like the Senate bill. As I pointed out, I think there’s parts of that bill that aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on & that they must be eliminated. I also expect them to be eliminated once they meet Jim Sensenbrenner.

If they can’t enforce now, why will they be able to enforce then?

The federal revenue will go up. So will the price of just about everything
you buy to cover the increased labor costs. And they won’t be illegal aliens
anymore. They won’t be citizens either. And they won’t be on any fast track
to citizenship.

Basically, it takes care of the illegal alien problem. After his plan is
instituted anyone from a foreign country who has no ducumentation will be
sent back.

It’s everything I could want.

Is everyone who writes on this site FROM California? And, are we all watching this country go down the tubes, one southern border state at a time? This piece speaks to Conservatives? OK, maybe not me, since I’m not well read, learned, and a dumb ex-USAF tool jockey.

I still vote. And, I gotta tell ya, I’m gonna deviate this November. I’m tired. California politics is a complete joke. I am a NATIVE CALIFORNIAN, I served my country, and my country is serving me spoiled milk and dry cookies.

Bah.

The warning signs in this post are, “internal poll” and “79% of self-identified conservatives”. I’m sorry, but to be conservative one has to make the sacrifice of non-comprimise on a multitude of issues in front of us - one being this amnesty mess.

Compassionate Conservatives are busy looking around realizing that we are being compassionate to everyone but ourselves. Is there something wrong with those of us that want a better life for OUR OWN CHILDREN that arrived on this soil LEGALLY?!

The tripe that was voted on this week is a clear message to those of us that ARE conservative and are surrounded by a state’s worth of people possessing a serious lack of visionary control. Stop making concessions to a group of people that are TRULY looking for growing the government - and in the wrong direction.

Have you actually READ the text? If you did, why is this section in the bill:

Sec. 759 - Screening of municipal solid waste

And, don’t get me started on the funds that are gonna fly out the door based on this bill. READ the appropriations, set asides, and grant proposals. Sheesh, is anyone fiscally conservative anymore?

Oh, and S.2611 should never have passed. If it is so full of “numerous atrocities”, WHY DID THEY PASS IT?!

Roe-v-Wade was a compromise, too. Where are we today, I ask you all?