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		<title>By: California Conservative &#187; The Republican Bird-Flu Scheme</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-52595</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative &#187; The Republican Bird-Flu Scheme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Republican Bird-Flu Scheme &#187; Joe Klein: Think Twice About a Pullout &#187; Republican &#8220;Malaise?&#8221; &#187;Al-Zarqawi&#8217;s Family Renounces Him &#187; If France Isn&#8217;t Gay, Depp Won&#8217;t Stay &#187; Democrats Split Over U.S. Troop Withdrawal &#187; Cindy Sheehan: Bound But Unglued &#187; &#8220;Stud Farm&#8221;: Now Hiring &#187; King Of Fools &#187; Bush Attends Church in Beijing &#187; Under Senate Pressure, Bush Reveals Iraq Strategy &#187; I Am Tired&#8230; &#187; Dick Morris Slams Clinton&#8217;s Dubai Remarks &#187; Al-Zarqawi Tape Threatens Jordan&#8217;s King &#187; OPEC Says No Plans for Production Cut &#187; The Open Post: Sunday Edition &#187; The Cold War Against America &#187; &#8220;The Murtha of All Morons&#8221; &#187; Democrats Playing Politics: Game Over &#187; The Democratic Plan for Iraq  List all posts &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Republican Bird-Flu Scheme &raquo; Joe Klein: Think Twice About a Pullout &raquo; Republican &#8220;Malaise?&#8221; &raquo;Al-Zarqawi&#8217;s Family Renounces Him &raquo; If France Isn&#8217;t Gay, Depp Won&#8217;t Stay &raquo; Democrats Split Over U.S. Troop Withdrawal &raquo; Cindy Sheehan: Bound But Unglued &raquo; &#8220;Stud Farm&#8221;: Now Hiring &raquo; King Of Fools &raquo; Bush Attends Church in Beijing &raquo; Under Senate Pressure, Bush Reveals Iraq Strategy &raquo; I Am Tired&#8230; &raquo; Dick Morris Slams Clinton&#8217;s Dubai Remarks &raquo; Al-Zarqawi Tape Threatens Jordan&#8217;s King &raquo; OPEC Says No Plans for Production Cut &raquo; The Open Post: Sunday Edition &raquo; The Cold War Against America &raquo; &#8220;The Murtha of All Morons&#8221; &raquo; Democrats Playing Politics: Game Over &raquo; The Democratic Plan for Iraq  List all posts &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bowman</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-52178</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn't matter whether or not it's real, because it accurately describes the "state of the Nation". The proof of this statement is the very debate generated herein, because if we all didn't recognize the truth of what's being said there would be nothing to argue about.

It's not important how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but rather why they are dancing at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter whether or not it&#8217;s real, because it accurately describes the &#8220;state of the Nation&#8221;. The proof of this statement is the very debate generated herein, because if we all didn&#8217;t recognize the truth of what&#8217;s being said there would be nothing to argue about.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not important how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but rather why they are dancing at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kobayashi Maru</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-51930</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobayashi Maru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't about a "sense of humor". Presenting this as even semi-real or "possibly" real or "could have been" real to the casual observer is foolishly putting ammunition into the hands of those who would believe the stereotype of conservatives as unthinking. We complain about Oliver Stone's artistic license with the facts and moan over foolish quasi-fictional escapades like Edmund Morris' book "Dutch" (when he couldn't come up with enough to write about Reagan.) Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot with stuff like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t about a &#8220;sense of humor&#8221;. Presenting this as even semi-real or &#8220;possibly&#8221; real or &#8220;could have been&#8221; real to the casual observer is foolishly putting ammunition into the hands of those who would believe the stereotype of conservatives as unthinking. We complain about Oliver Stone&#8217;s artistic license with the facts and moan over foolish quasi-fictional escapades like Edmund Morris&#8217; book &#8220;Dutch&#8221; (when he couldn&#8217;t come up with enough to write about Reagan.) Let&#8217;s not shoot ourselves in the foot with stuff like this.</p>
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		<title>By: reenforce</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-51717</link>
		<dc:creator>reenforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DJ:

In my hypothetical, the complained-of device (the document) BRIEFLY invites readers to ask themselves whether specific intent would have been worse than the willful recklessness that has resulted in AmericaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s current social failures.  Once its usefulness ended, I retired the device immediately.

What might seem moot and degrading to you has been instructional to others: that in the yin-yang of political discourse, a harmless detour into oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heart is not necessarily moot.  I chose Tom Clark because my harmless device would never dent the documented scandals that followed him throughout his career.

Even conservatives can enjoy the license that our freedoms of speech promote.  I value your input and will consider your comments in the future.

Keep up the good fight!

Clark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DJ:</p>
<p>In my hypothetical, the complained-of device (the document) BRIEFLY invites readers to ask themselves whether specific intent would have been worse than the willful recklessness that has resulted in AmericaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s current social failures.  Once its usefulness ended, I retired the device immediately.</p>
<p>What might seem moot and degrading to you has been instructional to others: that in the yin-yang of political discourse, a harmless detour into oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heart is not necessarily moot.  I chose Tom Clark because my harmless device would never dent the documented scandals that followed him throughout his career.</p>
<p>Even conservatives can enjoy the license that our freedoms of speech promote.  I value your input and will consider your comments in the future.</p>
<p>Keep up the good fight!</p>
<p>Clark</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-51711</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How can conservatives break the leftist stranglehold on California politics if we resort to such deceptions when preaching to the choir?&lt;/i&gt;

First of all, I'm reluctant to believe the "authenticity" of you being a conservative as you doth protest too much.

Second, if you are, that's terrific -- but I fear you're perpetuating the stereotype of us not having a sense of humor.

This essay is not a deception, as you lament. Instead, it's a clever metaphor with a punchline. Unfortunately, you just missed it by jumping to conclusions.

If you need something more obvious, see &lt;a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1471" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Truth or fiction? &lt;i&gt;(We took no chances of anyone questioning the authenticity)&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for your continued readership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How can conservatives break the leftist stranglehold on California politics if we resort to such deceptions when preaching to the choir?</i></p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;m reluctant to believe the &#8220;authenticity&#8221; of you being a conservative as you doth protest too much.</p>
<p>Second, if you are, that&#8217;s terrific &#8212; but I fear you&#8217;re perpetuating the stereotype of us not having a sense of humor.</p>
<p>This essay is not a deception, as you lament. Instead, it&#8217;s a clever metaphor with a punchline. Unfortunately, you just missed it by jumping to conclusions.</p>
<p>If you need something more obvious, see <a href="http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=1471" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Truth or fiction? <i>(We took no chances of anyone questioning the authenticity)</i></p>
<p>Thanks for your continued readership.</p>
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		<title>By: djl4570</title>
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		<dc:creator>djl4570</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my case cynical is a more accurate description.  In reading the first half of the missive credited to Justice Tom Clark I had strong doubts about its authenticity.  In my experience analyzing and discussing documents of dubious origin is an unproductive use of time.  The document is offered as authentic by the second paragraph of your post &lt;blockquote cite=""&gt;Among recently discovered documents, university scholars have uncovered a blueprint that clearly states how this domestic war is being fought. Written in 1945 by former US Supreme Court Justice Tom Clark (1899-1977), it provides the strategy with which to defeat America from within.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Until authenticated any discussion of the content is moot.  Reading your comments I now see that what was originally presented as authentic is later presented as   "fake but accurate".  This is not open and honest debate and it is beneath you.  How can conservatives break the leftist stranglehold on California politics if we resort to such deceptions when preaching to the choir?  These communist conspiracy themes have been  been published before in various essays based on predictions made in &lt;a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=a0211SZC34&#38;isbn=0910558027&#38;itm=2" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Naked Communist&lt;/a&gt;.  The predictions first published in 1962 were remarkably accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my case cynical is a more accurate description.  In reading the first half of the missive credited to Justice Tom Clark I had strong doubts about its authenticity.  In my experience analyzing and discussing documents of dubious origin is an unproductive use of time.  The document is offered as authentic by the second paragraph of your post<br />
<blockquote cite="">Among recently discovered documents, university scholars have uncovered a blueprint that clearly states how this domestic war is being fought. Written in 1945 by former US Supreme Court Justice Tom Clark (1899-1977), it provides the strategy with which to defeat America from within.</p></blockquote>
<p> Until authenticated any discussion of the content is moot.  Reading your comments I now see that what was originally presented as authentic is later presented as   &#8220;fake but accurate&#8221;.  This is not open and honest debate and it is beneath you.  How can conservatives break the leftist stranglehold on California politics if we resort to such deceptions when preaching to the choir?  These communist conspiracy themes have been  been published before in various essays based on predictions made in <a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=a0211SZC34&amp;isbn=0910558027&amp;itm=2" rel="nofollow">The Naked Communist</a>.  The predictions first published in 1962 were remarkably accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-51494</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're presuming there's a tone of sarcasm in these comments.

If anyone read the post in its entirety, the authenticity of the document is revealed: i.e. "imaginary authenticity."

As Clark Baker writes, "Had Thomas Clark actually published such a memo in 1945..."

These days, truth and fiction are hard to tell apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re presuming there&#8217;s a tone of sarcasm in these comments.</p>
<p>If anyone read the post in its entirety, the authenticity of the document is revealed: i.e. &#8220;imaginary authenticity.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Clark Baker writes, &#8220;Had Thomas Clark actually published such a memo in 1945&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>These days, truth and fiction are hard to tell apart.</p>
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		<title>By: djl4570</title>
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		<dc:creator>djl4570</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reads a lot like the Naked Communist and Death of a Nation.  This cannot be accepted as authentic without expert authentication.  A good place to start would be to post high resolution scans of the original documents along with comparable scans of authenticated documents written by the same author.

Anyone can write and circulate a transcript of a such a document.  Even though it is interesting and substantiates some of my political beliefs the transcript has credibility comparable to a CBS TANG memo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reads a lot like the Naked Communist and Death of a Nation.  This cannot be accepted as authentic without expert authentication.  A good place to start would be to post high resolution scans of the original documents along with comparable scans of authenticated documents written by the same author.</p>
<p>Anyone can write and circulate a transcript of a such a document.  Even though it is interesting and substantiates some of my political beliefs the transcript has credibility comparable to a CBS TANG memo.</p>
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		<title>By: reenforce</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/education/the-cold-war-against-america/comment-page-1/#comment-51268</link>
		<dc:creator>reenforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2nd paragraph from the bottom makes it pretty clear... Read it carefully and enjoy the weekend!

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2nd paragraph from the bottom makes it pretty clear&#8230; Read it carefully and enjoy the weekend!</p>
<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!  

  Is this supposed to be a genuine document or something that someone thinks old Judge Clark might have written given the chance.  The post is dangerously ambiguous in that regard.  I suspect it is something used to illustrate a point as opposed to historical original source material.  For me, it does not pass the smell test.
  If it is real, it is scary.
  If it is apocraful, I really don't think it's use is a good idea.  It smacks of the sort of paranoia our friends on the Left indulge in.  Kind of creepy.
   Anyway, sure would appreciate clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!  </p>
<p>  Is this supposed to be a genuine document or something that someone thinks old Judge Clark might have written given the chance.  The post is dangerously ambiguous in that regard.  I suspect it is something used to illustrate a point as opposed to historical original source material.  For me, it does not pass the smell test.<br />
  If it is real, it is scary.<br />
  If it is apocraful, I really don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s use is a good idea.  It smacks of the sort of paranoia our friends on the Left indulge in.  Kind of creepy.<br />
   Anyway, sure would appreciate clarification.</p>
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