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	<title>Comments on: ACLU Vs. America</title>
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	<description>Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM)</description>
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		<title>By: John Cheeseman</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/activism/aclu-vs-america/comment-page-1/#comment-298225</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cheeseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's time to take our country back for ourselves as well as the future of our children. Go to:www.InGodWeBetrayed.com to see what you can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to take our country back for ourselves as well as the future of our children. Go to:www.InGodWeBetrayed.com to see what you can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/activism/aclu-vs-america/comment-page-1/#comment-258161</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just re-read my previous post and, as I thought, no where in it did I say or imply that all children taught abstinence would not have sex.  I do remember writing that abstinence was the only guaranteed method of avoiding STD's.

Matter of fact, I wrote that "...if/when the kids have sex...", hardly a statement that says if they are taught abstinence they will follow it unequivically.

I am resigned to the government teaching children what passes for morality today because many parents have abdicated that responsibility.  I am not well-to-do, and had to fight constantly to correct what the government schools erroneously taught, but my children were worth it.  But I wouldn't even think of sending my children to guvmint schools today, especially in the dankwater outhouse town we live in.  I taught my children there is right and wrong, good and evil, and teach my grandchildren the same (with their parents' blessing).

I guess it's wrong to assume libs don't believe in evil - I know they believe GW &#38; Cheney are.  I just can't figure out why they don't believe bin Laden is, or the myriad of martyrs who kill women and children are, or that some things really are worth fighting (and dying) for, including a morality that teaches something other than hedonism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just re-read my previous post and, as I thought, no where in it did I say or imply that all children taught abstinence would not have sex.  I do remember writing that abstinence was the only guaranteed method of avoiding STD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Matter of fact, I wrote that &#8220;&#8230;if/when the kids have sex&#8230;&#8221;, hardly a statement that says if they are taught abstinence they will follow it unequivically.</p>
<p>I am resigned to the government teaching children what passes for morality today because many parents have abdicated that responsibility.  I am not well-to-do, and had to fight constantly to correct what the government schools erroneously taught, but my children were worth it.  But I wouldn&#8217;t even think of sending my children to guvmint schools today, especially in the dankwater outhouse town we live in.  I taught my children there is right and wrong, good and evil, and teach my grandchildren the same (with their parents&#8217; blessing).</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s wrong to assume libs don&#8217;t believe in evil - I know they believe GW &amp; Cheney are.  I just can&#8217;t figure out why they don&#8217;t believe bin Laden is, or the myriad of martyrs who kill women and children are, or that some things really are worth fighting (and dying) for, including a morality that teaches something other than hedonism.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJoeJimBob</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/activism/aclu-vs-america/comment-page-1/#comment-257897</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyJoeJimBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos,
Abstinence is a guaranteed method, to be sure, but it relies on a reality that does not exist, and will not exist. Your reality where teenagers do not have sex, do not experiment with dad's booze, etc, just doesn't is just not going to happen in the 'normal' world. Guess what, teenage pregnancy etc is even MORE of a problem in supposedly religious households. The reality of the situation is that schools are NOT going to solve your parental problems for you. They are NOT going to keep your kids from having sex. However, they *might* help keep your kids from getting pregnant or getting STD's. That said, you as a parent are going to have FAR more of an impact on what your kids do. If you're kid's too stupid to understand, before taking a sex ed class, that abstienence is the only sure way NOT to get pregnant or contract STD's, you haven't done your job or they've been dropped on their heads too much (again, your fault).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos,<br />
Abstinence is a guaranteed method, to be sure, but it relies on a reality that does not exist, and will not exist. Your reality where teenagers do not have sex, do not experiment with dad&#8217;s booze, etc, just doesn&#8217;t is just not going to happen in the &#8216;normal&#8217; world. Guess what, teenage pregnancy etc is even MORE of a problem in supposedly religious households. The reality of the situation is that schools are NOT going to solve your parental problems for you. They are NOT going to keep your kids from having sex. However, they *might* help keep your kids from getting pregnant or getting STD&#8217;s. That said, you as a parent are going to have FAR more of an impact on what your kids do. If you&#8217;re kid&#8217;s too stupid to understand, before taking a sex ed class, that abstienence is the only sure way NOT to get pregnant or contract STD&#8217;s, you haven&#8217;t done your job or they&#8217;ve been dropped on their heads too much (again, your fault).</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/activism/aclu-vs-america/comment-page-1/#comment-257890</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see why JT &#38; BJJB don't want abstinence taught in the schools.  If it is, and if/when the kids (children, for God's sake) have sex, it will place an onus of responsibility on those children, something anathema to libs.

Not only that, but what if, Heaven forbid, someone gets the idea that sex outside of marriage is wrong?  My, oh my, there may even be a tinge of guilt associated with that, and no one in their right mind would want to injure the tender little psyche of a child, right?

Hello, are you listening, JT &#38; BJJB?  Abstinence is the only guaranteed method of avoidence of STD's (or whatever they call them these days).  Personally, I'd rather see a few more bruised psyches than a longer line at the local VD clinic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why JT &amp; BJJB don&#8217;t want abstinence taught in the schools.  If it is, and if/when the kids (children, for God&#8217;s sake) have sex, it will place an onus of responsibility on those children, something anathema to libs.</p>
<p>Not only that, but what if, Heaven forbid, someone gets the idea that sex outside of marriage is wrong?  My, oh my, there may even be a tinge of guilt associated with that, and no one in their right mind would want to injure the tender little psyche of a child, right?</p>
<p>Hello, are you listening, JT &amp; BJJB?  Abstinence is the only guaranteed method of avoidence of STD&#8217;s (or whatever they call them these days).  Personally, I&#8217;d rather see a few more bruised psyches than a longer line at the local VD clinic.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJoeJimBob</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/activism/aclu-vs-america/comment-page-1/#comment-257869</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyJoeJimBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studies have shown that no matter how much you preach abstinence, children are going to have sex. Wow, big surprise there. I'd imagine that the message is especially meaningless coming from teachers instead of from parents. If parents are going to give up their responsibilities apropos sex educaiton, then I'd rather the schools teach things to kids that can limit pregnancies and the transmission of STDs. If parents don't want their kids to have sex at all, they should get off of their fat lazy asses and get involved and stop blaming the ACLU and the schools for their problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studies have shown that no matter how much you preach abstinence, children are going to have sex. Wow, big surprise there. I&#8217;d imagine that the message is especially meaningless coming from teachers instead of from parents. If parents are going to give up their responsibilities apropos sex educaiton, then I&#8217;d rather the schools teach things to kids that can limit pregnancies and the transmission of STDs. If parents don&#8217;t want their kids to have sex at all, they should get off of their fat lazy asses and get involved and stop blaming the ACLU and the schools for their problems.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/activism/aclu-vs-america/comment-page-1/#comment-257863</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACLU reasoning aside, abstinence education is completely ineffective and a huge waste of tax payer money.  Personally, I could care less what "parents want."  This should be taught in home, one way or the other.  I'm tired of my tax funds going to an education system that is seen as some sort of de facto parent, without the power to discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACLU reasoning aside, abstinence education is completely ineffective and a huge waste of tax payer money.  Personally, I could care less what &#8220;parents want.&#8221;  This should be taught in home, one way or the other.  I&#8217;m tired of my tax funds going to an education system that is seen as some sort of de facto parent, without the power to discipline.</p>
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