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	<title>Comments on: Senator Clinton Accuses GOP of Creating Police State with Immigration Bill</title>
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	<description>Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM)</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/senator-clinton-accuses-gop-of-creating-police-state-with-immigration-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-107351</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, greg, and I totally agree that employers should be held responsible, too.  

My solution, though, is to arrest the illegals, then fine the employer enough to hold the illegal for a year (when the illegal won't be able to send money out of the country, creating a disincentive for him/her), and enough to send them back to the country of origin.  If it's a small employer (like a local contractor) he will go out of business, but the debt will follow him.  If he's a major employer (like some of the supermarket chains, or everyone's capitalist fall-guy that has trouble opening new stores anywhere), it will hurt the bottom line, and stockholders will not be happy.

Remove the incentive from both sides, and the problem will boil down to catching the ones who are drug runners, rapos and murderers.

About the third time around for any company, throw the CEO in jail.  The fourth, the COO.  The fifth, the CFO.  And, BTW, if any particular local chain store gets caught the second time, send the manager to the cooler for a while.  Then the personnel director.

Pretty soon, everyone will get the idea, even as slow as some people are about such things as employment laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, greg, and I totally agree that employers should be held responsible, too.  </p>
<p>My solution, though, is to arrest the illegals, then fine the employer enough to hold the illegal for a year (when the illegal won&#8217;t be able to send money out of the country, creating a disincentive for him/her), and enough to send them back to the country of origin.  If it&#8217;s a small employer (like a local contractor) he will go out of business, but the debt will follow him.  If he&#8217;s a major employer (like some of the supermarket chains, or everyone&#8217;s capitalist fall-guy that has trouble opening new stores anywhere), it will hurt the bottom line, and stockholders will not be happy.</p>
<p>Remove the incentive from both sides, and the problem will boil down to catching the ones who are drug runners, rapos and murderers.</p>
<p>About the third time around for any company, throw the CEO in jail.  The fourth, the COO.  The fifth, the CFO.  And, BTW, if any particular local chain store gets caught the second time, send the manager to the cooler for a while.  Then the personnel director.</p>
<p>Pretty soon, everyone will get the idea, even as slow as some people are about such things as employment laws.</p>
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		<title>By: greg stephenon</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/senator-clinton-accuses-gop-of-creating-police-state-with-immigration-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-107030</link>
		<dc:creator>greg stephenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fences and deportations are not necessary.  All we really need to do is crack down on employers.  Mandatory prison sentences, fines high enough to put companies out of business and cost individuals their homes would dry up employment opportunities.  Couple that with a national id card with biometric data and they will walk out the same way they walked in.  Jail the employers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fences and deportations are not necessary.  All we really need to do is crack down on employers.  Mandatory prison sentences, fines high enough to put companies out of business and cost individuals their homes would dry up employment opportunities.  Couple that with a national id card with biometric data and they will walk out the same way they walked in.  Jail the employers.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/senator-clinton-accuses-gop-of-creating-police-state-with-immigration-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-106866</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Build the fence, hire more officers to patrol the border (with authority to use deadly force), THEN work to get the criminals out of the U.S.  That would work for me, provided the politicians had the guts to follow the wishes of 67%-75% of the citizens of this country.  

They all seem to bow down to the remaining 33%-25%, thinking they are the ones who control the future.

And stop issuing drivers licenses to illegals.  They came here illegally - what make anyone with an I.Q. of above 50 think they'll follow the law and get insurance?  Besides, has anyone ever heard of the motor-voter registration?  Last I heard, you had to be a living citizen (contrary to Gregoire et al) to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Build the fence, hire more officers to patrol the border (with authority to use deadly force), THEN work to get the criminals out of the U.S.  That would work for me, provided the politicians had the guts to follow the wishes of 67%-75% of the citizens of this country.  </p>
<p>They all seem to bow down to the remaining 33%-25%, thinking they are the ones who control the future.</p>
<p>And stop issuing drivers licenses to illegals.  They came here illegally - what make anyone with an I.Q. of above 50 think they&#8217;ll follow the law and get insurance?  Besides, has anyone ever heard of the motor-voter registration?  Last I heard, you had to be a living citizen (contrary to Gregoire et al) to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: AthlonGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AthlonGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans are choking on this issue. The real issue is the 500,000 new illegal immigrants running across the border every year, most of those very poor.

The millions of illegals already here have set up roots, they have family, friends, neighbors and do business here. Getting a substantial portion of the 11 million illegals deported is just not going to happen.

Going after those already here does little more than proving you have balls of brass without actually accomplishing anything. And what is up with President Bush's guest worker program which allows pregnant women to claim guest worker status, then walk into the US to give birth, meaning mother and child can stay here indefinitely? My brain is going to explode, this stuff is so illogical.

Just build a fence. Action! Action! Action!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans are choking on this issue. The real issue is the 500,000 new illegal immigrants running across the border every year, most of those very poor.</p>
<p>The millions of illegals already here have set up roots, they have family, friends, neighbors and do business here. Getting a substantial portion of the 11 million illegals deported is just not going to happen.</p>
<p>Going after those already here does little more than proving you have balls of brass without actually accomplishing anything. And what is up with President Bush&#8217;s guest worker program which allows pregnant women to claim guest worker status, then walk into the US to give birth, meaning mother and child can stay here indefinitely? My brain is going to explode, this stuff is so illogical.</p>
<p>Just build a fence. Action! Action! Action!</p>
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