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	<title>Comments on: GOP Core Principles Becoming Obsolete? Don&#8217;t Bet On It</title>
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	<description>Speaking Out For The Silent Majority (TM)</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/gop-core-principles-becoming-obsolete-dont-bet-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1207871</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T.A:  That is the reason for these discussions, to present various and opposing points of view.

Unfortunately, after reading the same argument to explain and solve virtually every problem, it's not difficult to read about one line of Rocky's posts and know it's him.  Same argument, same response, same mindless blather.

If there was anything to communism that made a lick of sense, I would listen to it and evaluate it, then decide if it fit with the rest of my world view and values.  Haven't found anything close yet, from Marx on.

And given the inability of that ilk to come up with any new ideas, I doubt I (or anyone else) ever will.  Once one undresses that lipsticked pig, it's still a pig.  The various dressings they install on it just don't change that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.A:  That is the reason for these discussions, to present various and opposing points of view.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, after reading the same argument to explain and solve virtually every problem, it&#8217;s not difficult to read about one line of Rocky&#8217;s posts and know it&#8217;s him.  Same argument, same response, same mindless blather.</p>
<p>If there was anything to communism that made a lick of sense, I would listen to it and evaluate it, then decide if it fit with the rest of my world view and values.  Haven&#8217;t found anything close yet, from Marx on.</p>
<p>And given the inability of that ilk to come up with any new ideas, I doubt I (or anyone else) ever will.  Once one undresses that lipsticked pig, it&#8217;s still a pig.  The various dressings they install on it just don&#8217;t change that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: T.A Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/gop-core-principles-becoming-obsolete-dont-bet-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1203615</link>
		<dc:creator>T.A Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky, why do you Marxists waste so much energy on people you'll never convince your right????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocky, why do you Marxists waste so much energy on people you&#8217;ll never convince your right????</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/gop-core-principles-becoming-obsolete-dont-bet-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1199314</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question, Rocky, is, when will you read the Constitution, instead of all the ponderous tomes explaining to us dumb folk what the words  of the Constitution actually mean?

The problem with the Constitution now isn't the Constitution itself, but how the language of it has been mangled by those who wish to control every aspect of every life.  That's why they have to find "penumbras" and such, so they can 'splain to us dumb folk what we're too dense to get in the actual language...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question, Rocky, is, when will you read the Constitution, instead of all the ponderous tomes explaining to us dumb folk what the words  of the Constitution actually mean?</p>
<p>The problem with the Constitution now isn&#8217;t the Constitution itself, but how the language of it has been mangled by those who wish to control every aspect of every life.  That&#8217;s why they have to find &#8220;penumbras&#8221; and such, so they can &#8217;splain to us dumb folk what we&#8217;re too dense to get in the actual language&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
		<link>http://www.californiaconservative.org/2008/gop-core-principles-becoming-obsolete-dont-bet-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1198503</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with conservatives is their limited creative thinking when it comes to such fundamental issues.  Take Fred's premise "We know that we were given a country based upon certain eternal truths–-the wisdom of the scriptures..." for example, from this dizzying array of irony.  Is Fred really suggesting that the United States of America was founded on religious principles?  Has Fred read the Constitution?  Have any of you?

Like the proverbial elephant in the room, Fred then actually brings up the Federalist system that he and fellow conservatives have worked diligently to destroy under Bush and his sweeping &lt;strike&gt;power-grab&lt;/strike&gt; executive powers.  I can't tell; is Fred trying to be funny?

Much like the rest of Fred's ramblings, this piece makes little sense.  Fred contradicts facts, claiming credit for a balanced budget in the 90's as well as DOMA (as though a certain President had nothing to do with it), while attempting to portray our economy now as somehow &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; than the longest peace-time expansion in our nation's history and despite a collapsing market, a mortgage meltdown, a credit crisis, and a national debt that has more than doubled in only 7 years.  Maybe Fred was sleepy when he wrote it, or who knows, maybe his 29-year old wife is his ghost writer.  I just know there had to be a reason Fred was laughed out of the political spectrum, and I think I found it.  He's even lazy about being delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with conservatives is their limited creative thinking when it comes to such fundamental issues.  Take Fred&#8217;s premise &#8220;We know that we were given a country based upon certain eternal truths–-the wisdom of the scriptures&#8230;&#8221; for example, from this dizzying array of irony.  Is Fred really suggesting that the United States of America was founded on religious principles?  Has Fred read the Constitution?  Have any of you?</p>
<p>Like the proverbial elephant in the room, Fred then actually brings up the Federalist system that he and fellow conservatives have worked diligently to destroy under Bush and his sweeping <strike>power-grab</strike> executive powers.  I can&#8217;t tell; is Fred trying to be funny?</p>
<p>Much like the rest of Fred&#8217;s ramblings, this piece makes little sense.  Fred contradicts facts, claiming credit for a balanced budget in the 90&#8217;s as well as DOMA (as though a certain President had nothing to do with it), while attempting to portray our economy now as somehow <em>better</em> than the longest peace-time expansion in our nation&#8217;s history and despite a collapsing market, a mortgage meltdown, a credit crisis, and a national debt that has more than doubled in only 7 years.  Maybe Fred was sleepy when he wrote it, or who knows, maybe his 29-year old wife is his ghost writer.  I just know there had to be a reason Fred was laughed out of the political spectrum, and I think I found it.  He&#8217;s even lazy about being delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If John Boy loses it'll be because of the conservatives.  If he wins, it will be because "independents" voted him in.  No matter what, conservatives are going to be the bad guys this fall.

It's time for conservatives to stand up and say "Enough!", and take their party back.  Get rid of the liberal/moderate power brokers brought in by socialists like McCain, Bush and Bush.  Get rid of the illegitimates who promise fiscal responsibility and pack (just like the donkeys) every conceivable piece of pork into every conceivable bill they can, then wonder why folks at home aren't happy.

And it's time to pack the SCOTUS with people who believe the Constitution of the United States says what it means and doesn't mean whatever happens to be currently popular.  And they can start with getting the federal government out of every business in the United States.  Those businesses don't fall under the "enumerated powers".  Then get them out of the pants of legitimate businesses.  And finally, throw every scoundrel who accepts a bribe into jail and throw away the key, along with the lobbyist who bribes him/her.  I can think of a certain majority leader who should be tops on that list, then a certain rep from Penn not far behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If John Boy loses it&#8217;ll be because of the conservatives.  If he wins, it will be because &#8220;independents&#8221; voted him in.  No matter what, conservatives are going to be the bad guys this fall.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for conservatives to stand up and say &#8220;Enough!&#8221;, and take their party back.  Get rid of the liberal/moderate power brokers brought in by socialists like McCain, Bush and Bush.  Get rid of the illegitimates who promise fiscal responsibility and pack (just like the donkeys) every conceivable piece of pork into every conceivable bill they can, then wonder why folks at home aren&#8217;t happy.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s time to pack the SCOTUS with people who believe the Constitution of the United States says what it means and doesn&#8217;t mean whatever happens to be currently popular.  And they can start with getting the federal government out of every business in the United States.  Those businesses don&#8217;t fall under the &#8220;enumerated powers&#8221;.  Then get them out of the pants of legitimate businesses.  And finally, throw every scoundrel who accepts a bribe into jail and throw away the key, along with the lobbyist who bribes him/her.  I can think of a certain majority leader who should be tops on that list, then a certain rep from Penn not far behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark J. Goluskin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark J. Goluskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly right! This election is not a good one for conservatives. Even if Sen. McCain does win, it will be credited to independents and disgruntled Democrats. This does not mean conservative Republicans should sit home and let Sen. Obama win. That is how we got stuck with William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. There are some great conservative Republicans to look forward to. Govs Jindal and Palin are two up and comers. We just have to be willing to do what we always do. Fight for what we believe in. It not only worked in 1994, but probably made President Clinton move away from the lefty fringe that is now prostrating towards Sen. Obama. BTW, what do we make of Gov Benedict Arnold? Talk about us getting hoodwinked on that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right! This election is not a good one for conservatives. Even if Sen. McCain does win, it will be credited to independents and disgruntled Democrats. This does not mean conservative Republicans should sit home and let Sen. Obama win. That is how we got stuck with William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. There are some great conservative Republicans to look forward to. Govs Jindal and Palin are two up and comers. We just have to be willing to do what we always do. Fight for what we believe in. It not only worked in 1994, but probably made President Clinton move away from the lefty fringe that is now prostrating towards Sen. Obama. BTW, what do we make of Gov Benedict Arnold? Talk about us getting hoodwinked on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Kalifornia Kafir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalifornia Kafir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only do we need solid Conservatives in Washington, but we need to hear more from them on TV (especially on Cable News) and see more of this in print. There still are many folks who don't get their news from the Internet and who don't read blogs.  If it weren't for these  two sources, I would never know that there was a Conservative alternative from watching Bay Area news coverage or reading local newspapers.  I never see Steyn or Thompson reprinted in local newspapers.  We have to find a way to get the message out to a wider audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only do we need solid Conservatives in Washington, but we need to hear more from them on TV (especially on Cable News) and see more of this in print. There still are many folks who don&#8217;t get their news from the Internet and who don&#8217;t read blogs.  If it weren&#8217;t for these  two sources, I would never know that there was a Conservative alternative from watching Bay Area news coverage or reading local newspapers.  I never see Steyn or Thompson reprinted in local newspapers.  We have to find a way to get the message out to a wider audience.</p>
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